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Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine
My point was that as an agnostic objectivist, I agree. I am not a Randian but rather an objectivist. But Randians in no accurate way could be considered religious. This again demonstrates your trouble distinguishing between different concepts and words..
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In no way? Riiiight.
I did not say they were equivalent (in fact I made it a point to say they were not).
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Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine
Read more carefully please. As I said, it was after 9.11 that I read the quran and discovered that these people really do represent islam correctly, these terrorists, true believers. This changes everything, for anyone with any sense...
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I read it... and again, it changes nothing.
You haven't been reading me very clearly.
I don't think the notion of "representing islam correctly" means anything. However Muslims decide to represent it... that's what the religion becomes.
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Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine
We defeated the ideologies behind hitler and Japan, not just the nation-states. The same is necessary here. I would declare victory based on numerous different but acceptable results. But, the most likely is simply a surrender of the islamic goals of enforcing their patheticly stupid and totally evil ideology on the West, or at least America. The war is going to get much, much bigger before this happens. This WWIII has barely started in fact.
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We defeated the ideology of fascism by defeating the fascist nations... The rest of fascism's defeat was mostly the work of fascism itself- It doesn't work!
Who exactly needs to surrender for the alleged goals of Islam?