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Old 05-10-2008, 01:04 AM
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But isn't the reason why socialism and communism are doomed to failure because we as humans have not evolved beyond thinking only of ourselves and our individual situations? Collectivism is a noble goal but one that is inherently flawed because there will always be someone who controls, someone who has more power, someone who abuses the naive faith and trust that is put blindly into the hands of humans who become more corrupt with every passing day.

And the fact is, no matter how rosy we want to paint to humanity, or a form of government, self-interest almost always supercedes that of collective interests. That is the nature of the beasts we are, the rule of survivalism.
Communism fails because it requires the people to feel a sense of community. In larger nations, the population is physically spread out too far for the people to feel a sense of community as a nation. Convents and Jews in kibbutzim developed a working system precisely because they already have either a feeling of community (or commonality) or a shared ideology where there is no external pressure on any member of the community.
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I literally think the opposite. The way FoxNews presents information, they try much harder and go out of their way to respect the public's intelligence, far more so than the so-called "liberal" news media.
I'm speechless.
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