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Old 05-10-2008, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by C-D-P View Post
And here is where the sword is double edged.

A person who joins may not agree with present situations, but he does agree with defending America.
Even though the US military is NOT defending America. They are defending the pockets of war profiteers and oil companies.
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Those of you that feel you can not defend he who defends you are cowards. Plain and simple.
Again, they are not defending...at all.
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You do nothing, and offer nothing.
How do you know? Maybe he or others have volunteered their time and services in other ways. Not being a part of one of the worst crimes against humanity in the last 20 years is a lot better than supporting it or being a part of it.
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Yet feel free to criticize.
It would be wrong not to.
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While living under the blanket of security that they provide. Be it action here or there, they are providing it.
I disagree. I believe their actions will cause more terrorism and more animosity towards the western world. In a sense they are making the world more dangerous.
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It does not matter if you see them as protecting you. They are.
By invading non-threatening countries and causing much aligned hatred towards the western world? That is not protection.
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By criticizing them for their service you not only do them a disservice, but you do yourself a disservice.
Not at all. I stand true to my beliefs.
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If you disagree with what is going on in the world, then it is your responsibility to stand out against it. Yet you fail to do so.
How so? I can't speak for Big Red but I've written letters, signed petitions, voted for anti-war candidates. Also by spreading information on the internet you are able to know that giving more information to others you hope they can make a more informed decision about the state of the world.
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Then get on the internet and condemn the rough men that do violence on your behalf. You then criticize those in power for doing the same.
Yes. Violence that is not needed. violence that will not solve anything but make matters worse. We have been saying this since the beginning of Iraq and we were right. Things in Iraq are much worse.
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If you do not believe that they are acting on your behalf then it is up to you to do something about it.
Exactly what? Protest, speak out, write letters, sign petitions, join advocacy groups?
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So proud to talk smack on the internet where no one knows who you are. Yet so afraid to stand up and do something about something you feel so strongly about. Coward.
I would still say the same things face to face and I have.

I saw a bumper sticker in Arizona last August that read "My son is in Iraq so you can have your Freedom" I asked the guy to explain to me how his son was obtaining the freedom (which we already have) from Iraq which never threatened it. When he couldn't he got all belligerent, threatened me with violence, called me a few names and drove off.

In Canada here we have bumper stickers that read " If you are not going to stand behind the soldiers try standing in front of them." Anytime I see those propagandist slogans I challenge those people face to face.
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