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Originally Posted by Herkdriver
I wasn't intentionally ignoring your point. I understand you don't think, as many others don't think, that a belief in a Divinity is required for moral behavior. A moral life is certainly possible without God. A life which mirrors that of Jesus Christ doesn't require belief in any God. ~
True.
This STILL...is a life led separated from God, because the only way a person can be with God is to believe in Him.
This is the Faith of a Christian...certainly as I interpret it...and I'm admittedly not a Biblical scholar at all.
The BLUF (bottom line up front) of the situation is..that Atheists CHOOSE to reject God.
God is NOT rejecting them.
God still LOVES them and wants a relationship with them. God gave His Son for us..to enable humanity to experience God. His Son was Crucified by Humanity. Humanity rejected Jesus just as many parts of our World reject Jesus now.
There will be a COST for this and the hour of our Death. God will Judge us on this.
I realize the Atheist thinks this is all a bunch of "hocus pocus" non-sense and I expect to hear those refrains.
I'm not some back-woods person.
I'm college educated and I consider myself fairly "Worldly" in my outlook.
I've had the privilege of visiting close to 40 other Nations on this Planet...about 43 of the 50 States here in the U.S.
I am not embarrased to say, I believe that Jesus not only existed, he was also God's Son and Jesus died on the Cross for humanity's sins so that God may have a relationship with Us, his Creations.
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I dont see any reason to mock you for your beliefs. And I never thought that you were some back woods person. Ive met PLENTY of religious people who are much smarter than myself lol.
I am glad you admitted that someone can be a good person without believing in God. That was all I was looking for.
As for the rest of what you said....If you are right and there truly is a God, then I am probably in some trouble lol. Hopefully though the part of the bible where it talks about the lord being "a forgiving lord" (something like that, I dont remember the exact words) will be true and I will be forgiven for being a non believer.
Perhaps someday ill rediscover my faith, perhaps someday it will rediscover me. At this point I simply am of the mindset that I cant believe in something without at least a little bit of proof.
But I dont have ANY problems with you or anyone else having faith. I think religion is mostly a good thing, I just dont agree with some of it being instilled into our policy or laws, and that is the only time I will argue against religion is if someone is using it to try to get laws passed.
And that is probably the only time you will find me here arguing against it, is if it has something to do with law.