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Old 05-11-2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by klipkap View Post
Beletesri - the above is your exact quote. So as to avoid vacant cross-purposes dialogue - what exactly was YOUR point?
You quote me fully but take me out of context of responding to the previous discussion not "Bought".
That WAS the previous discussion..
as to the new one:
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1) To me it seems that you are saying that the 'annexation' of real estate for the creation of '1948 Israel' was fine because the bulk of the ground did not belong to Arabs. If I am mistaken, please enlighten me as to what you really meant. If I am correct, then my rebuttal stands.
The whole Ottoman Empire was/Had to be Divided/"Annexed" into States.
Some willy-nilly by the Brits.
Jews/Jewish RESIDENTS had a valid claim to post-war (I and II) state as they had been promised before anyone thought up 'Iraq' or 'Jordan' or many other post-war states.
Why is the creation of Israel, more nefariously described as 'annexation', any more problematic?
Especially in light of the fact the Arabs were given 99% of the Ottoman Empire and 87% of the British mandate., inluding Jordan/aka Palestine 1.
You also omit, as well as Jordan (70% 'Palestinian'), Resolution 181 also Created/"annexed" 'Palestine' (II) for the Arabs, Not Just an Israel.
Nor did that creation entail the expulsion of any Arabs. That was the result of the War THEY Started.

And unlike the other "Annexations" by the Brits (or French/French Mandate for 'Lebanon'), Israel was created by a Majority Vote of a World Body.. the UN.


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Do Zionists claim that they never took any land from anyone? Do they claim that because ground was not owned by specific individuals, that it was fine to give it to someone else what had had no real control over it for more than 2700 years? If they do, then it is not just an empty claim - correct? It then remains to be seen whether it is a Myth or the real truth.
You keep copntradicting yourself - as to the necessity or fact of "taking" land.
You allow that they "Bought" it legally.. allow that "Arabs didn't own it", but then claim it was "Taken".
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