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Old 05-11-2008, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by White Fox View Post
There's some good ole liberal logic for ya right there, because left and right are defined by the whims of the two political parties in America.
Did you vote for Reagan? Was his support not among the right? He was "of the right," because he came from the party of the right, was supported by the right.

It's not my fault he made a monkey out of those who supported him. Most still do.


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So are you saying McCain is of the right?
Yes, in the sense that he is from the party on the right, his support comes from the right.

Besides, he flip-flopped all of his liberal views. The problem is, unlike reagan and bush, people aren't likely to believe anything he says.

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He clearly is a big government, environmentalist, anti-capitalist liberal like yourself and a republican, so clearly he is of the right. If this is true then there is no difference between left and right in America.
The difference is: Republicans spend more, predominantly on military industry, and tax less, creating a greater debt.

If you're looking for a truly smaller government, may I suggest Dubai?

They're always looking for slave-laborers...


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So he did the EXACT thing that Obama is doing today. Attack the Republican administration for its big government policies in order to get elected while supporting a bigger government policy.
Not really. One can see a national health insurance program as "big government" but most people would rather the government do that, than waste money on a Dumb War.

What Bush does is different, in that he spends more money without trying to fix the problem, often in schemes to make contributors exceedingly wealthy, re: his reading program.

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Government can work quite effectively, for its own benefit. That's the law of incentive, and the government has different interests than I do.
Every libertarian is a self-anointed, wannabe philosopher-king.

The problem for them is that other people exist, and this is a democratic republic.

And, most other people have a greater sense of altruism.

That's why libertarians have absolutely no power in the federal government.

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