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Old 05-11-2008, 08:59 PM
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You obviously know what the right stands for, but you deny it because you say it doesn't exist and because you want to further your liberal agenda.
What? I think the right exists, just as the left exists.

I think the right's biggest problem is that they have failed to accomplish the goals at the core of their political philosophy.


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Because the right supports big government, big taxes, and strong leaders for todays world.
The right stands for less taxes, disproportionately for the weatlthy, but, it expands the government, and has created the boondoggle of the century in Iraq.

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That makes him even more of a liberal pansy.
Well, I don't know. I give McCain credit for balls, although little else.

What it means is: he's probably going to lose.


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So who supports small government? The Democrats?
Supposedly the Republicans. The problem is, when they have power, they expand the government, and take on tasks of building other, arbitrary nations, while at the same time claiming the government should not, or can't, do this at home.

So, it can't just be the leaders who should be blamed for the inability of the party to actualize it's supposed agenda, it's the people who actually believe the leaders are going to do it.

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You honestly believe that Obama will pull out?
By the end of his first term, I think we'll have minimal troops in Iraq; less than 20,000, to protect our embassy.

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How does that not make him a liberal?????
That's for Republican voters to figure out; I'm just highlighting the conundrum.

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Does that make Obama a libertarian?
Clearly, not.

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Oh, because I didn't know that and it is such a big problem. And I doubt you know the principles behind a democratic republic!!!!!!!!
I know that compromise and pragmatism are necessary to any action in such a system, and that severe ideological frameworks, like libertarianism, fail because most people do not have severe ideological frameworks.

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