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Originally Posted by C-D-P
I am still waiting for you to back your origional claim. But until you do that. here we go again.
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Huh?!?!
Do you mean how you asked me:
I am still waiting to see where article 39 says. And I quote
"Invading a UN member nation without sanction from the UN Security Council is illegal under Article 39 of the UN Charter"
I have already explained that.
As I wrote earlier:
By invading a UN member nation without sanction from the UN Security Council - it is the invading nation(s) that has determined the existence of any threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression.
This is contrary to Article 39, which says that the UN Security Council will determine this - NOT the member nation.
And it was the member nation that decided what measures would be taken in response to this perceived threat.
This is contrary to Article 39, which says that the UN Security Council will decide what measures shall be taken in accordance with Articles 41 and 42, to maintain or restore international peace and security.
Because the action was directly contrary to the provisions of Article 39 - it is illegal under Article 39
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Originally Posted by C-D-P
When they are deciding. It is what they are going to do. As they decided to do nothing. We were justified.
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Huh?!?!
The USA, UK and Spain tried to pass a resolution to enforce Resolution 1441. The UNSC did not pass this resolution. By not passing the resolution - the UNSC determined that there
was not the existence of any threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression and hence - it
did not make recommendations, or decide what measures shall be taken in accordance with Articles 41 and 42, to maintain or restore international peace and security.
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Originally Posted by C-D-P
They can not decide what we can or can not do. As stated in Article 51.
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Article 51 says they can not decide what we can or can not do to impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations:
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.
How was invading Iraq self defense? When did Iraq carry out an armed attack against the USA or UK or Spain or Australia or Poland.....?