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Old 05-13-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by C-D-P View Post
Yes it showed that the number of suicides went down, not violent crimes.
What are you talking about? It talks about rates of ALL TYPES of firarm deaths.

The finding:

The rates per 100 000 of total firearm deaths, firearm homicides and firearm suicides all at least doubled their existing rates of decline after the revised gun laws.

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Dead is dead. It did not reduce the crime level, so it did nothing. But there is a clear correlation between demographics. Early intervention and education has worked pretty well, and it does not violate anyone's rights.
Actually, it did reduce levels of crime...but we digress. The ban clearly dropped the number of gun-deaths.

So, Mission Accomplished.


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There are a lot of factors that contribute to that. Guns are a small part of that.
What other factors? I keep asking. So far we have race.

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Mass shootings. But as they only had them that few years, you could not establish a pattern. Sure they havent had one in 10 years. But how long had it been before? This logic worked for you and terrorist attacks. Guess it will work here too. [/quote]

What? The rate is what makes it comparable. Mass shootings are also down. The rate is down, mass shootings are non existent.

And you're telling me the ban did nothing?

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As I said before. The number of suicides by gun went down. Not the numbers of killings. As the number of suicides did not change, gun control didn't change anything.
The number of murders went down. The number of gun-murders went way down.

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No, it is because we are focusing on a tool, and not the criminal.
A tool to kill people.

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I would like to see a source for that.
No problem: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...f+state&st=nyt

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Sure it does. Enable the citizens to protect themselves, while keeping them out of the hands of criminals. But gun control does not help that as it only keeps guns from honest people.
How would a license, and a reasonable limit on the number of guns a person can purchase in a given span take guns away from law-abiding citizens?

That's all I'm asking: No more than 3 guns per purchase, and all should be licensed.

If you need a license to drive a car, you should need one to own a gun.

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Well, you seem to like to compare things. So,,, Look at the crime level in NC, and that of NY. We have guns, and less crime.
LoL.

Your crime rate is actually higher, 4.8, versus 4.3 here.d

When you compare two places with different populations, it's the rate that matters.
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