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He goes on:
In the face of the facts, Owen begins the name calling you highlighted.
Some debate there.
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The only debate is that Olsen intentionally uses false numbers.
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Prove that this is the case.
No. I haven't said that. Prove that suicides haven't gone down.
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http://www.wesleymission.org.au/publ...&d/suicide.htm
Owning a gun does not make one commit suicide.
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You don't have time? You're saying it's other factors than the massive availability of guns. I'm merely asking your actual factors beyond racist's rhetoric.
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Are you calling me a racist? That is far from true. What I said is racial divide. Not race itself.
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What? I never argued that.
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Could swear that you have. But anyway. K.
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It's not just the 10 years. They've always had stricter gun laws. They've always had less gun deaths.
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And yet gun crime continues to rise in that country even though they got rid of the guns.
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You make a lot of claims that you never "have time" to back up with facts.
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I am sorry. I have posted it so many times that I figured it was common knowledge now. Ok.
Gun related crime is on the increase in Australia even though they have very strict gun laws.
http://www.nraila.org/issues/factshe...d=30&issue=015
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...006009,00.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...816939675.html
Rifles are only used in 2% of crimes.
[qutoe]hahaha... I understand that country's with stricter gun laws have less crime, and accidents, involving guns.[/quote]
So once again, you only care if the crime involves guns?
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It doesn't take a genius to understand if criminals can easily purchase weapons, they will use them.
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No matter the restrictions you place, they will always be able to get them easier than honest people.
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If it is harder for them to get them, it will be harder for them to commit crime.
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You can't stop a criminal from getting a gun. If he wants one, he will get it. Even in countries where there are very strict gun laws, it is still fairly easy for them to get them.
What is special about page 12? All it has is the address and floor number.
But maybe you should have read the disclaimer.
"Firearms selected for tracing are not chosen for purposes of determining which types, makes or models of firearms are used for illicit purposes. The firearms selected do not constitute a random sample and should not be considered representative of the larger universe of all firearms used by criminals, or any subset of that universe. Firearms are normally traced to the first retail seller, and sources reported for firearms traced do not necessarily represent the sources or methods by which in general are acquired for use in crime."
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No. I'm saying if you want to collect guns, it's not unreasonable to limit the number of guns you can purchase at one time.
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That is not constitutional. That is my problem with it.
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Gun smugglers are often those without criminal records, and they simply go to gun shows and corrupt dealers, where they buy in bulk and sell individually.
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Gun smugglers are criminals. Focus on them not the honest citizen.
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It's really a minor inconvenience,
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That is an opinion.
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and it would stop the gun trade.
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Hardly.
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What you have in your driveway is a part of public record.
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Not until I get a license for it is not.
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Only for the purpose of a well-regulated militia.
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You need to take some comprehension classes. This has been explained many times in the various gun threads. Would you like me to point you to which ones?
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What it would do would allow North Carolina to enjoy it's violent crime rate, while not being a stop for gun smugglers who want to sell them in my city.
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Once again. Deal with the gun smugglers. Not the honest citizens.