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Originally Posted by Daybreaker
Socialism requires no more obedience in order to function than any other form of government................
If order has to be enforced, it isn't really social, now is it?
This is why I think that a proper, benign social society can only be brought about through democratic means. When people choose to be social, it'll work. If they don't, it can't, by definition. Peace can't be imposed, 'cause imposition isn't peaceful.
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You sound like the textbook-thumping, lectern-leaning student of Marxism. The only problem with your view is that it's never been the case throughout history. China, the Soviet Union, and Cuba all require(d) fascist enforcement to keep the masses from straying from the mandates of the centrally directed social system. Those societies only remain "peaceful" through the strength of government.
Socialism by its basic nature requires the productive members of society to surrender much of their gains to the less productive and needy. Without forced compliance, most of the productive would refuse to part with the fruits of their labor, just as the rich in America constantly fight and connive to avoid the fairness of progressive taxation and seizure.
Can you imagine what a mess Social Security, Medicare, or Socialized Healthcare would be if they were left up to personal freedom of choice?