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Old 06-07-2008, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Foolosophy View Post
Perhaps you would like to give everybody in here ONE example of a US Politician who wishes to run for Office WHO HAS CLASHING AGENDAS WITH AIPAC.

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Perhaps you would like to give everybody in here ONE example of a US Politician who wishes to run for Office WHO HAS CLASHING AGENDAS WITH AUSTRALIA.

Westen civilizations have parallel goals. Shocker. So Israel has a lobby? So there are Jews in government? It is in the US's best short-term interest to defend and support Israel simply for strategic reasons. The US is terrible at long-term interest/action projection, but there are few countries that have proven themselves to be good at that. Your contention that the US is solely to blame for the existence of Israel is obtuse at best. Your contention that the US should reconsider the long-term consequences of its support of Israel is fair. The question is what happens between.

I'm no fan of carte-blanche support for Israel. I do think their lobby is too powerful. I think it would be better if we judged our support of Israel on the independent merits of each issue, but it's equally hard to discern the long-term effects of those decisions as well.

Honestly, what do you propose should be done that would lead to a rational and stabile middle-east? You can throw out every sort of criticism of the US, but until you propose a better solution, you've really got nothing. NOTHING.
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