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Originally Posted by JavaBlack
The odd thing about the Clinton/Obama divide is that it seems ridicuolous that there is so much of a gap.
The campaigns were both shocked to see each other as rivals.
Against any one else, Clinton would be the "change" candidate. This was a bizarre race because Clinton or Obama should have taken the spot in the primaries reserved for "liberals"... where either one would, under normal circumstances, lose to Edwards, Richardson, or Biden.
This is interesting in that two "liberals" won out the rest early on. This is showing a definite shift in the party that didn't exist so much in those other cases.
Reagan v. Ford was ideologue v. pragmatist
Kennedy v. Carter was "liberal" v. populist.
Now it seems we have "liberal" v. "liberal" and both were attmpting to win the populist vote.
It was rather unnatural to see Clinton finding a niche with blue collars!
This election will only get weirder when we see the "outsider independent liberal" v. the "moderate-conservative maverick".
I think it says more about the country right now than any candidate or party.
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Hillary is a true liberal with many what many consider moderate leanings. I consider those leanings to be liberal principles, but in an age when a crappy movie actor who never met a promise he could keep got to define what a liberal was...
gawd Reagan was a jerk.
Obama, is a left/moderate progressive. His campaign courted the angry, bitter, and others who ere not all registered Dems until the day or weeks/months before the Dem primaries/caucuses. Hillary's campaign went after the base and the middle with a far more healthier message. Obama's hope was based on the premise that the world has become very dark.
Reagan v. Ford was ideologue v. conservative
Kennedy v. Carter was "liberal" v. populist.
The race will indeed get weirder. It is also a very long race. It is actually better for us all. We get a look at the candidates,.
I think Obama supporters hated Hillary keeping the race active was it kept shining a light on a candidate with weak credentials and little true experience.
I am one who thinks Obama is not as great a speaker as tjhe mobs and the press(who have fallen infatuation if not in-love with Barack's story) .
am I the only one disturbed by the Obama spin that he does not use race? His stump speech was about "what are the odds of me being here?" and that is about his race, no? I know he says he was raised by a single mom, but was he? I thought his grandparents raised him and his mom got remarried.
Obama has nothing in common with people raised by one parent. He has thins in common with kids with divorced parents. the more ?I look at him, the harder it is to justify joining his campaign online after Hillary asking me too.