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Originally Posted by JavaBlack
I actually saw it much differently.
Both have similar views and Obama is actually a bit more liberal (anti-death penalty).
It's their styles that were different.
Obama is younger and sees more utility in bipartisanship- give a little, take a little, try to maximize transactions through trust and respect.
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the problem here is Hillary has a record of bipartisanship that Obama lacks. hillary like ted k, is used by the GOP to raise money, but like ted she helped bipartisanship flourish
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Originally Posted by JavaBlack
Clinton came of political age in the dark days of Nixon and Reagan. She sees it as a constant war where liberals are always the underdog and must fight like it. She doesn't see that the conservative "revolution" is at an end. She follows the DLC strategy of downplaying liberalness and going for the throat.
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you almost sound like you are parroting what is fed on the cable gabfests. the DLC is s liberal org. It is not a leftist one.
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I think the main problem was the lack of understanding as to what she was doing. Obama fought well to defend his credentials, proving that he can do it against McCain.
Clinton just seemed so strange. One minute it would look like she was staying in to ensure everyone votes and help the party along. The next minute it looked like she was going to blow up the party if she wasn't picked.
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there are more than one way to view what the long campaign added to the whole
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Originally Posted by JavaBlack
The main problem I had with keeping the race going is that it gave McCain a head start in the general campaign. The party has to be united by November.
If this was to be carried out until August, that would be near impossible.
He is a great speaker. He's not so good with debates... but then again debates don't mean much.
If they did, Biden would be our candidate.
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I like biden
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Originally Posted by JavaBlack
It's being dramatized a bit, as most people dramatizee their lives. I think most single-parent kids get help from grandparents... but then so do a lot of double-parent kids.
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here Obama is a phoney. he was raised by his grandparents and by a step dad with a mom.
most single parent kids do not get that kind of help. like most middle class people (I assume you are from your views) you are mistaking single parent families with divorced families.
Obama is the product of divorce. His mom remarried and took him overseas. No single parent kids I know (who ain't wealthy) get that kind of experience.
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The main point is that single-parent households statistically produce bad results.
He's just trying for the "only in America" speech. That's a pretty typical political speech, generally effective.
I wouldn't say he has nothing in common with them. Many of the troubles in single-parent households are emotional ones. Obama still had an absent father and that's supposed to create a lot of problems.
Obviously the right parent and the right support can overcome that.
He obviously had some luck somewhere in how he was raised and who his family was. I don't think he'd deny that. He's not a Republican.
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obama is a fraud. he is a packaged product and his media guy is an astroturf specialist. that alone should make people lose sleep