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Old 07-05-2008, 08:07 PM
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But I think it's despicable to call this little girl a creature and say she has no chance at a good life. I mean, Makedde, I realize that you apologized for the choice of words, but I find it almost impossible to overlook what you said just based on a quick apology.
I apoligised, but only because some people were offended. I still hold the opinion I did, though.

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I don't believe your words were carelessly chosen... I don't think a person says something that extreme unless they mean it.
I will admit that I meant what I said. I look at her and I don't see a child at all. And yes, it isn't fair to judge someone entirely on their looks, but that's just the way I feel. I can't change that.

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I'd like to hear how you justify even daring to type something like that out in the first place. I could see if it slipped out in conversation, but this is an internet forum... you have time to edit yourself.
As I said, I don't see Julianna as a child. I said that I see her as being a 'creature' because that, to me, is what she is. I don't expect other people to feel the same - but there will be people out there who will agree with me, just as there will be people out there who will agree with you.


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And I have to add, if you are really pro-choice, why? I mean you seem more pro-abortion than pro-choice to me.
I see myself as being pro choice, bordering on pro abortion.

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But you seem to be proposing that there are certain cases in which it is morally wrong for a woman not to abort, which in my opinion is much less pro-choice and much more pro-abortion.
I do believe that there are times when women SHOULD abort. That's just an opinion, obviously I am not going to force my opinion on people, but I'll merely state it, and say that sometimes, abortion should be encouraged, even expected.

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No one can calculate, as you clearly stated yourself, what Juliana's life will be like in the future, or how she will feel about it. Let the mother's decision be hers.
I hope she is a happy child, I really do. But I fear for her when she gets older and realises she is different. It WILL be hard for her, especially when she goes to school. Is she going to cope with that? I don't know. Will her parents regret having given birth to her? I don't know that eithor.

The problem I have with these people is that they KNEW what horrible deformity Julianna was suffering from, and they CHOSE to have her anyway. I do not believe her parents thought about Julianna's future, or about the countless surgeries they would put her through as soon as she was born. I don't believe they considered her at all - I think the only two people they thought about was themselves, and that is selfish.
Whether people are against abortion or not, if they find they are carrying a child who will suffer a deformity like Julianna's, they owe it to their child to really think about bringing her into the world. They need to decide whether they are considering the childs future, or their own beliefs on abortion.

There may be some people out there who would have had Julianna simply because they were against abortion. That would be putting their beliefs before the welfare of the child.

If people want to have their deformed children (for lack of a better word) then go right ahead - but sit down and think about the childs future, consiered what the childs life may be like, and then make a decision. Don't make the decision based on your own beliefs, there will be another person to consider.
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