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What would your estimate be? Why doesn't our government tell us the figure?
Oh, thats right, killing innocent people is just part of war!!! Remember how angry we felt after 9/11? I would imagine there are plenty of iraqi citizens that are just as angry, and are most likely laying the blame on bush&co.
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And a lot arnt -
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As much as i prefer not to have bush as pres, if another country came in and took him out and tried to put their "choice" in power, i would be pretty fighting mad.
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I am just guessing on this...but maybe you wouldnt be so mad if Bush was killing and torturing your family members and fellow countrymen...am I wrong?
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ALso, we need to remember the 5000+ disabled vets, some of who are probably pretty angry and saying "What was it all for?"
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Maybe...but none of them were conscripted. What did they think they were getting into when they joined the military?
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I don't know what you would consider a "reliable" source. Since our government either doesn't care (gen. Tommy Franks: "We don't do body counts") or is hiding their figures (more likely), we have to rely on third parties. I wouldn't necessarily discount an anti-war group's estimate - it wouldn't be in their best interest to risk losing credibility by proviiding grossly inflated figures.
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But they are motivated to inflate figures nontheless, and no one is watchdogging them. They are biased, so yes, I discount them.
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What I find remarkable is that the government can refuse to give any information about the civilian casulaties. The US based press has not done the investigation to find out. So the only people who have number are people who seem to care about how many innocent people have been killed, which are anti-war organizations or aribic news sources.
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Both of which are biased. It is in their best interest to make the figure look as high as possible.
Liberals would never accept Rush Limbaugh as a source...why do you expect us to accept these liberals groups as a source?