The gauntlet has been thrown down that I can't explain this:
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Originally Posted by TheStripey1
really? You've explained why WTC #7 fell in a free fall despite not having been hit by one of the aircraft?
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OK, step 1: Get the facts straight. It is a common truther lie that the WTC 7 fell in freefall. This is, in fact, completely false. From the first signs of collapse (East Penthouse) until complete collapse was over 13 seconds.
Who says so? How about the pre-eminent truther, Steven Jones admitting they were wrong and that it took twice as long to collapse as they initially claimed?
Source Video evidence they are talking about
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Step 2: Determine why WTC 7 collapsed. You've already stated WTC 7 wasn't hit by an aircraft, but this is a clear attempt at diversion. You try to claim WTC 7 wasn't hit by an aircraft and thus it wasn't hit at all. Truth of the matter is it was hit with debris from one and possibly two 110 story buildings, each weighing an astounding half million TONS.
The PROOF of the damage comes from those who were close enough to the building to get a good look at the damage; the firefighters themselves.
Two sources for firefighter testimony:
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Originally Posted by Niegro
The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn't lose any more people.
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Originally Posted by Fellini
The major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven, building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. So for the next five or six hours we kept firefighters from working anywhere near that building, which included the whole north side of the World Trade Center complex. Eventually around 5:00 or a little after, building number
seven came down.
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Originally Posted by Hayden
By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o'clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.
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**Note** A transit is a device to see if a building is leaning any one direction
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Originally Posted by Hayden
Firehouse: Was there heavy fire in there right away?
Hayden: No, not right away, and that's probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop. It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn't make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety.
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Originally Posted by Hayden
Firehouse: Chief Nigro said they made a collapse zone and wanted everybody away from number 7; did you have to get all of those people out?
Hayden: Yeah, we had to pull everybody back. It was very difficult. We had to be very forceful in getting the guys out. They didn't want to come out. There were guys going into areas that I wasn't even really comfortable with, because of the possibility of secondary collapses. We didn't know how stable any of this area was. We pulled everybody back probably by 3 or 3:30 in the afternoon. We said, this building is going to come down, get back. It came down about 5 o'clock or so, but we had everybody backed away by then. At that point in time, it seemed like a somewhat smaller event, but under any normal circumstances, that's a major event, a 47-story building collapsing. It seemed like a firecracker after the other ones came down, but I mean that's a big building, and when it came down, it was quite an event. But having gone through the other two, it didn't seem so bad. But that's what we were concerned about. We had said to the guys, we lost as many as 300 guys. We didn't want to lose any more people that day.
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So there you have it. The building fell in over 13 seconds which is far slower than freefall speed. Even the "truther" estimate of 6.5 seconds is slower than freefall speed. And even though it hadn't been hit by a plane, WTC 7 had indeed been hit and hit hard. Hard enough to cause enough damage that the fires that burned for hours were able to weaken the structure enough to cause a collapse.
Any questions?