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Old 07-17-2008, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
And following that, using your logic (50 years before we know what the hell is going on today), we won't know if Mr. Bush's happy little war in Iraq has been a success for five decades, so it's decidedly odd that you're trying to say our attack and invasion of Iraq has been a "success" at this early stage in your timeline.
Go find for me where I said that our attack and invasion has been a success. I didn't say that; you made it up because you can't actually read and address my real points but feel the need to make up strawman points that you can try to attack.

I said that the surge was working. That means the tactics we adopted are achieving the short term goals we wanted such as less violence. Does that mean the entire thing has been a success? No, it does not. It just means the surge is working.

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BTW, were you going to address any of these issues?
  • If the surge is working, why are there MORE troops there now, after the surge, than before?
Go look up what the tactics in the surge were and what they demanded in terms of troop levels. If you don't know the answer to this, I'm not confident that I'm discussing this with a well informed person.

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  • Where do we get the authority to insist that another country adopt OUR form of government?
Our form of government is working rather well, all things considered. It is certainly much better than the government Saddam had. The fact that the Iraqis went through with their own elections shows that at least a large portion of the society wanted to participate in a democratic form of government.

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  • They have asked us to leave. Several times.
Some have, that's true. However, we started a process which would yield horrible results if it were left in the middle and not finished.
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