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Originally Posted by Southpaw
I doubt it takes longer to build a refinery than it took us to get to the moon after Kennedy's proclamation.
Of course, that assumes that the Dems don't block us every step of the way and make their criticisms of the time tables involved a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I'm not saying that adding alternatives would remove gas. That's not what I'm saying at all.
Here's what I'm saying:
We currently rely primarily on oil and natural gas. Let's do everything we can to lower the prices of oil and gas in the short and medium terms so that the average American consumer suffers less financially.
Let's also do what we can to bring alternative energies up to speed as quickly as economically reasonable to do so.
I'm all about giving the American consumer as much opportunity and as many choices for energy consumption as possible. That will lower the prices of everything. However, we should also do as much as we can to lower the individual prices of those different options of energy by increasing the supply.
That means we should be pushing everything at once. Let's build as many solar panels, dams, tidal energy receptors, windmills, coal plants, nuclear plants, and drill as many holes in the ground [including the groud below the oceans] as we can.
Let's just do everything so we can achieve low prices and energy independence as quickly as possible. I'm sick of hearing the concept that we shouldn't pursue one method or the other because another is superior. I say let the corporate sector pursue them all and let the market sort out what provides the best products. That's America baby!
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And you are not facing reality. There are only three options to lower prices for consumers
today.
1) Release some of our reserves - that's why we have them
2) Subsidize - That's what the Chinese are doing and that is why their demand is skyrocketing - sending our prices higher
3) Regulation - price caps....I'm not a fan of this but it's one of the few options
Read my Original post - first we need to explore to find the best reserves (structural traps for the hydrocarbons - like underneath salt domes) - then we need to drill production wells, then we need to develop the wells and bring them into production - then transport and arefine the crude. How long do you the the exploration will take? then constructing the drilling platforms? then actually drilling the wells...and on and on.
Opening up ANWR to drilling will NOT affect the supply and demend of gas in this country. Yeah, crude comodities might drop for a few weeks in the market, but that is just the psychological part. In reality there will no more gas for years.
Let's say we do start drilling in ANWR...How mu8ch is that going to cost to bring up to production? How will the oil robber barons recoup those costs? - Fromt he consumer by increasing prices
Further, let's say it only takes 7 years (which is very generous to your argument - because some estimates are as high as 18 years) to get new oil to the market. What is the world demand going to look like at that point? How will that have already affect prices, while we're all sitting around with our thumbs up our arses waiting for this miracle reserve.
Further, how long is that ANWR field going to last? At what production rate? It's not the silver bullet that the right is making it out to be.
So I reiterate. There are only 3 ways to actually help the consumer, and all 3 of them involve government action - not just letting the capitalist pigs rape our land....which brings up another point. That is US soil....other than BLM claim fees, who gets compensated for the billions of dollars of oil they would be stealing from the Country's natural resources? Nobody - instead they line their pockets with profit they steal from the American people.