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Old 07-17-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by paragon View Post
Aw boo hoo some Ron Paul-supporting coward got really mad at my previous post and gave me a negative reputation point. Communication a bit too much to ask for?

"Why do you believe that Ron Paul has terrible ideas, paragon?"
"What makes you say that, paragon?"
"I disagree with you but I am interested in what you have to say about this subject, paragon."

All acceptable responses.

Here's one dumb idea from Ron Paul - he wants to get rid of income tax. This is a terrible idea. Income taxes generate most of the government's revenues.
He wants the government out of our bedrooms but also wants bans on abortions (that's called a contradiction)
He wants the Gold Standard back - we got off the gold standard because it wasn't a good idea to be on it
Voted to ban adoptions by gay people in DC in 1999 - there is absolutely no reason for this
He wants scientific facts that support creationism to be presented in schools... I shouldn't have to tell you that this is a violation of the separation of church and state

"Q: Does the US have a role to play in ending the genocide in Darfur?
PAUL: The US government has no authority. There's no constitutional authority. There's no moral authority."
This is just wrong.

He wouldn't endorse the creation of a commission to monitor the eradication of slavery in Sudan, where the slavery of a man is legal.
He says that the US should not give foreign aid.
He is against our membership in the UN.
He sponsored bill invalidating International Criminal Court.
He said that the US spent $1 trillion on foreign operations every year. This number is wrong. It is actually $572 billion.
He thinks that every single US soldier overseas should return home. - Sticking our head in the sand will not help us Ron Paul.
He wants to eliminate the FBI and DHS

and so on and so on
The income tax has certainly allowed us to make our government A LOT larger than it needs to be. The sales tax would cover all legitimate expenses the government would have to pay. By getting rid of the income tax we could get rid of useless government departments like the DoD, Dept of Education, the IRS:-p, Dept of homeland security...etc

The US shouldn't give foreign aid. By giving aid to one country we (*)(*)(*)(*) off another. If following the advice of Washington and Jefferson are silly notions, then you should move elsewhere.

He doesn't want a ban on abortion, he said it was a state issue. He personally thinks abortion is a bad thing, if that is what you meant.

We got off of the gold standard because the economic imperialism we set up after WWII (at Bretton Woods) was unsustainable. Many countries knew the system was unsustainable (China for ex) because Britain used the same sort of economic imperialism with their pound-sterling. The only reason the gold standard was unacceptable is because we couldn't coerce other nations with the gold standard. The gold-exchange standard is a different story, which is essentially what we had until Nixon got rid of the Bretton Woods system.

In fact our gold standard of the 1880's was the most prosperous decade our country has had if I remember correctly.

I've never heard of the ban on gay adoption in DC, that would be interesting to look into. I'm not seeing any information on it from a web search.

Creationism being taught in school got a "yes" from every republican candidate, not just Paul. Personally I don't see why it is a big deal, ultimately the parents are going to play a larger role in shaping their child's view on something like that. Any rational person would tell their child creationism is flawed and ridiculous on their own time. However, I'll agree this seems to be an actual weak point of Ron Paul.

Ron Paul, like Jefferson and Washington, sees not point in entangling alliances abroad. Darfur is a terrible situation, but there are innumerable terrible situations in the world. We can't do everything, and we shouldn't pick favorites. We should worry about our country, not others.

The Sudan, foreign aid, UN, and ICC situations will have similar answers to the previous one. All we need to do with other countries is trade with them and have neutral/positive relations.

So much of the defense budget and intelligence budgets are invisible (the public doesn't get to see them) you can bet the foreign operations expenses is higher than 572 billion, albeit I don't know where he gets the trillion dollar figure. Either way, 572 billion dollars ignores the unconstitutionally invisible budget expenses you should know about.

Washington warned us about standing armies and their threat to liberty. We shouldn't have them in other peoples countries at all. I'm sure you thinking sticking our heads in the sand is bad, but sticking them on other peoples sand in general will only lead to blowback.

He wants standard intelligence through the FBI and CIA, but not military coups and other ridiculous actions. Watergate, Cuban missile crisis...etc.

We had all the information to deal with threats in the past, the Dept of Homeland Security is just another monstrous bureaucracy. It is only costing the tax payer more, not providing any more security. Drew Griffin was just put on the terrorist list, clearly homeland security is a great addition to are overblown federal government. That is 45 billion dollars the tax payers shouldn't have to pay.

Last edited by Drewster; 07-17-2008 at 06:54 PM.
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