It does seem that as this was continues, more and more of the "coalition" is getting out, i don't blame them. I don't see anyone wanting to join up either. So bush shall lead america on anyway, with maybe half the population going along with him.
The first reason for the war seemed compelling, but didn't quite pan out as thought. Taking saddam out was a good idea while we were there anyway, but i think this could have been done without so much destruction. WHat are we on now...freeing the iraqi people...giving them democracy. Well, that they can surely do on their own, and ask for help if needed.

Going into a country and killing civilians is a thing that should never be done without a very good reason, and what IS the reason?I guess the logic goes that by killing them there, they can't come here and kill us. I don't follow that logic. My logic tells me that when you , as a nation and not a band of lunatics, go into a country and kill innocent civilians, you are making more people angry enough to want to join a band of lunatics. THere are enough lunatics in the world, we don't need to make more.

Hopefully the kiwis learned somethings that can benefit their forces for the future, so at least it was not in vain.

BTW..i'm still hunting for the good news stories. I've found a few where the troops were helping kids play soccer and they give them things like crayons, but even those troops felt that that is not really the work they should be doing. Giving kids crayons is always a good way to brighten up their world, but i think their world would be so much better if they were not living in a war zone. IF we pulled out now, there would probably be some fighting among the iraqi's, but it's their country. THere is a lot of killing in this country, how can we stop it there, especially if we are doing a lot of it?