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OH so that's ok then if they're suicides? We can eliminate those people from the statistic because *beep*, what do they matter?
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Precisely. That is, unless you want to put restrictions and government controls on the 100's of other ways people decide to kill themselves. You can start with over the counter drugs, which account for many more deaths than guns.
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How comes if someone gives you a number that you don't like you dissect it and claim its inaccuracy? If you're going to throw statistics into the forum and expect us to accept them as valid, you should at least have the dignity to do the same to those who don't agree with you.
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I dissect all statistics given to me, both the ones I like and the ones I don't like, and I would expect (and hope) that others will do the same with any statistic I post. You should never assume a statistic is valid unless you've checked it out yourself. It's part of being educated and not believing everything you hear. I claim inaccuracy only on statistics I find inaccurate.
The statistic you posted is the kind that throws up all sorts of red flags. From the tone of your posts, I get the feeling you're pretty young. When you go to college (or if you're there already), one of the most valuable courses you can take is basic logic or critical thinking (look for it in the philosophy department). I recommend it highly. The earlier the better. |
Thanks for the curriculum advice. I have actually taken Theory of Knowledge for two years already (I'm a senior in high school) and actually I do realise that some things need to be checked out so don't patronise me.
However, you still have not managed to find any evidence that the statistic I put forward is invalid. Apart from your estimation about the number that could be attributed to suicide (which by the way I find extremely offensive, because these are people, too, whether they choose to take their own life or not). I am not saying we should put restrictions on everything that can be used to commit suicide - but if we eliminate this one at least it will be a step in the right direction.