Well, it's not a fresh story. I wouldn't expect them to delve into it in great detail.

I'm looking for a copy of the report itself, which should have more complete details in it.

Again, what this is is something of a coda to an old story. They're not going to rehash every little detail like they did when it first broke.

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"Obviously"?

Yep.

Ah, the old "the absence of evidence IS the evidence" theory -- classic conspiracy buff stuff.

I thought Berger deserved to be punished, and he was. He was fined $50,000, sentenced to 100 hours community service and had his clearance revoked. I imagine Condi's sentence in similar circumstances would have been similar.

I would have wanted her to be punished. The punishment I leave up to the statutory authorities, who presumably follow guidelines.

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Yes: obviously. Sandy Berger knew the laws and rules. He broke them intentionally. There was NO mistake here.

Yep---that absence of evidence has both Tom Delay and Lewis Libby going to trial. But Sandy Berger got no trial did he? IMHO, he should be doing jail time. The authoriities should have found out who Berger was talking to on the phone from inside the Archives documents room too. Let's see----he was in there on Clinton's behalf. Could it have been Bill Clinton himself??? Could Bill have directed Berger to get those documents?

So----do you want us to believe that's all? That you wouldn't have demanded to know what she was destroying and why? What was it in those Classified docs about Osama bin Laden and terrorism did Clinton and Berger NOT want the public to see or know about? We'll always wonder.

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"What exactly is this foreign policy experience?" Obama said mockingly of the New York senator. "Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no."

By the way who exactly are these terrorists that you refer too? Tell us Who has been lumped into that catagory? Is Osama (remember Osama?) still lumped into that category? But I'm curious who are the enemy terrorists?
Are the every angry Iraqi, every Shi'ite, every Sunni, every Muslim or every innocent grandmother going through security at the airport? Please tell us who are they?

A re-examination of the case from 2004 reminds us of the documents that Berger was interested in and what the Archive employees discovered:

"The government source said the Archives employees were deferential toward Berger, given his prominence, but were worried when he returned to view more documents on Oct. 2. (This is because they suspected he was taking documents the first time he was there)

They devised a coding system and marked the documents they knew Berger was interested in canvassing, and watched him carefully. They knew he was interested in all the versions of the millennium review, some of which bore handwritten notes from Clinton-era officials who had reviewed them. At one point an Archives employee even handed Berger a coded draft and asked whether he was sure he had seen it.

At the end of the day, Archives employees determined that that draft and all four or five other versions of the millennium memo had disappeared from the files, this source said. "

So, let's see now: Berger was interested in ALL VERSIONS of the same document----the document of the millennium memo which went to all the top level Clinton administration and which included hand-written notes from the Clinton officials, including Clinton, who had reviewed it. ALL were missing after Berger left. He stoled ALL versions of that memo.

Imagine if Donald Rumsfeld had gone into the National Archives and stole ALL Classified copies of the after 9/11 memo that went to all Bush administration officials---which would have included their hand-written notes. Just imagine.

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"What exactly is this foreign policy experience?" Obama said mockingly of the New York senator. "Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no."

anyone remember?

I meant "obviously had something hand-written in the margins?"

When a prosecutor says he has evidence of a cover-up, I give them some credibility. I give no such credibility to idle speculation by people who have no actual knowledge of the details.

No, he cut a plea deal. Just like Bob Ney.

Okay. Apparently the authorities didn't think the crime was severe enough to warrant it -- or they couldn't prove it, or thought national security would be endangered by a trial.

I would have wanted to know -- just like I wanted to know with Berger. And we found out. What you're doing is engaging in speculation about what else MIGHT have been in the documents.

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"Rather than the "honest mistake" he described last summer, Berger acknowledged to U.S. Magistrate Deborah Robinson that he intentionally took and deliberately destroyed three copies of the same document dealing with terror threats during the 2000 millennium celebration. He then lied about it to Archives staff when they told him documents were missing.

Noel Hillman, chief of the Justice Department's public integrity section, tried to be reassuring:

Berger only had copies of documents; all of the originals remain in the government's possession, Hillman said.
The AP describes the Berger incident as "bizarre," and, to an ordinary reader, it must seem bizarre indeed. Why would anyone steal and destroy "three copies of the same document," and then lie about it?

The answer, obviously, is that all of the "copies" were different, in that they contained different handwritten notes by various Clinton administration officials, apparently including Berger

So----Berger and likely Bill Clinton did NOT want the public or the Commission who was investigating 9/11 know what was in those hand-written notes on those memos. He was protecting the Clinton administration. And it looks like he got away with it.

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/010040.php

"The document, written by former National Security Council terrorism expert Richard A. Clarke, was an "after-action review" prepared in early 2000 detailing the administration's actions to thwart terrorist attacks during the millennium celebration. It contained considerable discussion about the administration's awareness of the rising threat of attacks on U.S. soil.

Archives officials have said previously that Berger had copies only, and that no original documents were lost. It remains unclear whether Berger knew that, or why he destroyed three versions of a document but left two other versions intact. Officials have said the five versions were largely similar, but contained slight variations as the after-action report moved around different agencies of the executive branch.

So Berger removed five copies of the Clarke report, carefully destroyed three of them "late one evening," and returned the other two to the Archives. Obviously he reviewed the notes on the five documents and destroyed the three that contained information damaging to the reputation of the Clinton administration."

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"What exactly is this foreign policy experience?" Obama said mockingly of the New York senator. "Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no."

WeShal asks what was Oliver North's pu nishment?

Well is was "''a $150,000 and prominent Republicans had offered to pay it, "

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" Sarah Palin HAS elected BARACK Obama THE PRESIDENT"

THIS thread is about Sandy Berger and the latest released IG report about him. IF you want to start another thread in the Past Politicians sections on an official from the 80's, feel free.

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"What exactly is this foreign policy experience?" Obama said mockingly of the New York senator. "Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no."