Thread: Commission report ommitted and ignored, but defended vigorously by shills

Originally Posted by Jango

I apologize that I am bumping an old thread (mod team), but RTW, would you mind making a list for me? Please, would you enumerate, in as much detail as possible, all the ways the 9/11 Commission Report is 'wrong'.

Be happy to Jango.

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/571-page-lie.htm

David Ray has also written a great book on this subject entitled "The 9/11 Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions" which I have read and own, so I can reference it if you have any further questions (should the link not suffice for some reason).

One note on David Ray. Folks here like to tear him down as someone who's dishonest, treacherous, or whatever. I find him to be very credible and I consider him very well informed on 9/11. Oh...he's a Theologian too. (I guess that accounts for his "treachery"). LOL Good day.

Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud

Be happy to Jango.

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/571-page-lie.htm

David Ray has also written a great book on this subject entitled "The 9/11 Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions" which I have read and own, so I can reference it if you have any further questions (should the link not suffice for some reason).

One note on David Ray. Folks here like to tear him down as someone who's dishonest, treacherous, or whatever. I find him to be very credible and I consider him very well informed on 9/11. Oh...he's a Theologian too. (I guess that accounts for his "treachery"). LOL Good day.

Of course you would worship David Ray. He is a proven liar. Heaven forbid you ever worship someone with credibility. Do you still worship Fetzer too even though he has exposed himself for what he truly is to the point even YOU saw it?

Originally Posted by Patriot911

Of course you would worship David Ray. He is a proven liar. Heaven forbid you ever worship someone with credibility. Do you still worship Fetzer too even though he has exposed himself for what he truly is to the point even YOU saw it?

Wow...I didn't realize that. What did he SPECIFICALLY lie about? (if you could be so kind as to illuminate me, so I can change my opinion).

Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud

Wow...I didn't realize that. What did he SPECIFICALLY lie about? (if you could be so kind as to illuminate me, so I can change my opinion).

I will give you one whopper. Defend it if you can. DRG says the hijackers are still alive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kEw...layer_embedded

At the 2:30 mark.

This was from March of 2010, so it isn't like the facts about the "alive" hijackers haven't been beaten to death and he wouldn't be aware of the true facts. This is a perfect example of the kind of incredible dishonesty one regularly encounters from truthers.

Originally Posted by Patriot911

I will give you one whopper. Defend it if you can. DRG says the hijackers are still alive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kEw...layer_embedded


At the 2:30 mark.

This was from March of 2010, so it isn't like the facts about the "alive" hijackers haven't been beaten to death and he wouldn't be aware of the true facts. This is a perfect example of the kind of incredible dishonesty one regularly encounters from truthers.

I believe he means the individuals NAMED incorrectly as hijackers is what he is advocating as being alive and well.

Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud

I believe he means the individuals NAMED incorrectly as hijackers is what he is advocating as being alive and well.

Nice attempt at rewording what he said so that he might retain some small shred of credibility, but that isn't what he said at all. He was VERY clear as to who he was talking about.

Originally Posted by DRG

Certainly lets take the issue of the hijackers. Whether there were eight or so, we certainly know that some were still alive after 911. Waleed Al Shehri, for example, showed up in Morocco and gave a press conference. The BBC reported on it. They said there is no doubt about the fact that he is the man because they had published, the FBI had sent his paper, his picture around the world and it was the same man. And then there is his brother...."

Isn't it funny how DRG can quote the BBC when they report news that was reported accurately but incorrect? Original article Yet DRG can't be bothered with clarifications from the same BBC because they refute his fantastic claims that helps him dishonestly sell books. Clarification here.


This was cleared up beyond any doubt shortly after 9/11. Waleed A. Al Shehri (alive) is not the same as Waleed M. Al Shehri (dead) the hijacker. Waleed M Al Shehri was not a pilot, he was muscle. Waleed A. Al Shehri is a pilot.


Do these look like the same man to you?

Even Embry Riddle, the school Waleed A. Al Shehri went to, commented on the facts.

First news
Clarification

This is EASY stuff to verify. The names didn't match. The pictures didn't match. DRG lied his ass off about what the BBC said as the BBC article was put out BEFORE the FBI put out the pictures. Want MORE proof DRG is lying his ass off about the hijackers being alive? IF he actually believes that the hijackers are alive, why has he not even TRIED to either contact them or find them? Put yourself in his shoes. You're trying to make a name for yourself so you can sell lots and lots of books. You're trying to prove the government is lying. You have a MASSIVE lie (if true) in ANY of the hijackers being alive that INSTANTLY destroys the government's entire case. Yet neither DRG or any other truther has made the attempt to find the alive hijackers. Why? They KNOW they are lying. They are just hoping nobody else notices the fact they are lying and know they are lying.

The one thing that is just as certain as DRG lying his ass off is that he was NOT referring to the "individuals NAMED incorrectly as hijackers". I am wondering if you even watched the video as one cannot logically come to the conclusion you did after watching the video.

Come on, RWAF. Either prove DRG was telling the truth or admit he is a liar. You wanted proof. I've given you a prime example.

RWAF, why have you abandoned this thread when you specifically demanded proof DRG is a liar? I've given you the proof. You can't refute it, yet you continue to worship DRG as a "Godsend". Do men of God lie in order to make their points? I am pretty sure God frowns on liars.

Originally Posted by Patriot911

Come on, RWAF. Either prove DRG was telling the truth or admit he is a liar. You wanted proof. I've given you a prime example.

I've answered that Pat. He was referring to the incorrectly (wrong) names of the hijackers that the goob used. Made up names that turned out to be actual people. The "proof" is the names listed by our goob were inaccurate. THAT was the point, despite your re-characterization attempt.

Originally Posted by Patriot911

RWAF, why have you abandoned this thread when you specifically demanded proof DRG is a liar? I've given you the proof. You can't refute it, yet you continue to worship DRG as a "Godsend". Do men of God lie in order to make their points? I am pretty sure God frowns on liars.

The man isn't the liar here. He speaks truth. Anybody can check him, his credentials and his opinions out for themselves easily enough. I'm very comfortable with my interpretation of his statements. They're consistent, and they're honest.