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Can you imagine how many people would have to keep their silence? It would be so massive a scale that I thinjk it would be virtually impossible to pull it off.
For those of you who believe that the buildings were brought down by explosives, ponder this, when and where these devices planted? Consider this as well; the fact a large part of the work (placing explosives) would have had to have been done during the initial constructon. How many thousands of workers were told to remain silent? Impossible!
For those who state that Avgas; jet fuel cannot melt steel you are right in one sense; if a pan of jet fuel was burning it would not melt the steel. You must consider many other factors such as the total "fuel load" and various types of other fuels were burning plus the fact a "chimmny effect can take place. Air being forced up through stairwells and other opeing causing fuel to burn much hotter. Take some basic classes on fire behavior.
Think of it this way, when a blacksmith wants to melt, bend metal they use devices to induce air into the fuel making it much hotter than if the fuel was burning was buring by itself. Think about that.
We did NOT attack our own country!
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Can you imagine how many people would have to keep their silence? It would be so massive a scale that I thinjk it would be virtually impossible to pull it off.
For those of you who believe that the buildings were brought down by explosives, ponder this, when and where these devices planted? Consider this as well; the fact a large part of the work (placing explosives) would have had to have been done during the initial constructon. How many thousands of workers were told to remain silent? Impossible!
For those who state that Avgas; jet fuel cannot melt steel you are right in one sense; if a pan of jet fuel was burning it would not melt the steel. You must consider many other factors such as the total "fuel load" and various types of other fuels were burning plus the fact a "chimmny effect can take place. Air being forced up through stairwells and other opeing causing fuel to burn much hotter. Take some basic classes on fire behavior.
Think of it this way, when a blacksmith wants to melt, bend metal they use devices to induce air into the fuel making it much hotter than if the fuel was burning was buring by itself. Think about that.
We did NOT attack our own country!
And I do agree that we didn't have anything to do with 9/11. But just think what would've happened if the passengers on that flight knew what was going to happen and acted to stop it. It does raise questions upon many of us, that the passengers would just sit there and watch Americans die. The Twin Towers destroyed. That brings even more questions. They knew what was going to happen...they could've stopped that crash...but they just sat there looking stupid and pathetic. Only one plane recorded any resistence and that plane ended up on the ground, not in any building with Americans jumping out and falling to their deaths. Why would we just sit there and not do a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing? Raises questions right. Well it should, because of their stupidity they destroyed the Twin Towers and they killed U.S. citizens cause of it.
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Hi Hellseven. thank you for your insite. I had not really pondered that aspect of it; however, there are lot of questions we may know the answer to.
If the passengers knew what was going to happen I hope that the Americans or any sane person would have tried their best to thwart the act of war and atatck on the WTC's savng their and those on the ground.
Here are some possibilties that may have caused them to not take action, a possible diversion due to mechanic or health issues, too mnay guns pointed at he crew and passengers, although even at the risk of being killed I strongly think that several passengers would have fought back, maybe get killed in spite of the fact they were going to die anyway. I know that I would have fought them no matter what weapons they had.
I think that the passengers did not know the scope of what was going to happen. For all they knew it could have been a "standard" give me money" or "release our holy brothers' and so on. and plane for getaway or land and negotiate with the F.B.I. to try and achieve their objective. Tragically the objective was to ram those planes into our WTC's. Someone would have fought if they knew the full extent of their insanity.
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So many questions don't jive with what they government says happened.

That makes no sense.

That makes everybody with an extra brain cell kicking take a second look



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Hi Hellseven. thank you for your insite. I had not really pondered that aspect of it; however, there are lot of questions we may know the answer to.
If the passengers knew what was going to happen I hope that the Americans or any sane person would have tried their best to thwart the act of war and atatck on the WTC's savng their and those on the ground.
Here are some possibilties that may have caused them to not take action, a possible diversion due to mechanic or health issues, too mnay guns pointed at he crew and passengers, although even at the risk of being killed I strongly think that several passengers would have fought back, maybe get killed in spite of the fact they were going to die anyway. I know that I would have fought them no matter what weapons they had.
I think that the passengers did not know the scope of what was going to happen. For all they knew it could have been a "standard" give me money" or "release our holy brothers' and so on. and plane for getaway or land and negotiate with the F.B.I. to try and achieve their objective. Tragically the objective was to ram those planes into our WTC's. Someone would have fought if they knew the full extent of their insanity.
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Yet again, I still would've fought them even if they hi-jacked the plane for their brethern...And not too mention how and the hell did they not know that the plane was in a city? They all had windows to see outside. And the fact that too many guns were an issue is absurd. There was only two-four guys on that plane with a weapon. Lets face it, the reason why the passengers didn't resist brings up a million questions, and one of them that we attacked our own country! Why would America try to destroy our empire? Why would the goverment destroy WTC? Questions are strung up on this topic of 9/11. The people that believe America, the ones who destroyed their own empire (which already might happen, seeming how we are getting too powerful) with a hi-jacked plane. And the ones who think we are out there in Iraq for Oil might think that the reason was cause we needed a reason to invade Iraq. I simply can't bring my self to believe that the American Goverment had anything to do with 9/11!!!
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its stupid to think that 911 is a cospiracy. i dont know why this is even talked about every one knows that
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I don't believe that 9/11 was a government conspiracy.

What I do believe is that our government has used this attack against America in many wrong ways. This single terrorist attack is used as an open invitation for our government to declare war against whomever they please. When WMD's were not found in Iraq they pulled out the 9/11 card to ensure that the international community wouldn't abandon our agenda in Iraq.

It's just sad to see our leaders take this tragic event and use it as leverage for wars that are against the very grain of our country. They called Iraq a preemptive strike...before 9/11 a preemptive strike would have been a ridiculous thing to try and garner support for.

The war on terror is basically an open ticket for the U.S. to do what they please with under developed countries and countries that operate under governments other than Democracy. It is unjust and I fear that it will lead to the end of the great ideals that this country was founded on.
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Can you imagine how many people would have to keep their silence? It would be so massive a scale that I thinjk it would be virtually impossible to pull it off.
That's a ridiculous argument, there are secret operation going on every day that you don't know about. That's why they call them ''secret'' operation, or black ups. My guess is that they used people from outside the country like Isreal.

here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2nVkN983fU&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwOKm9-c2ls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClxECagPXz0

Watch part 2,3 and 4.
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There are some explanations for the bottom of the building blowing up. These are just a couple off the top of my head.

One: There are boilers in the bottom of most buildings. If the airplane crash caused damage to the boiler it is possible that the boiler exploded. A boiler big enough to feed part of that building would blow it to pieces no problem.

Two: There was a bomb placed and the airplanes were just for dramatics. Even if there were bombs placed...how is this a conspiracy? It's just unexplained completely or correctly.

If you believe this to be a conspiracy who's agenda does it fit into. I agree that our government gained invaluable militaristic movement because of the outcome of 9/11. But the government wasn't the only investigative source into the world trade center collapse. There would have to be silence by all of those sources in order to cover up the true cause of destruction. There's bound to be someone with a conscious in one of the reporting agencies.
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