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    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    Not necessarily.
    How can a plane "not necessarily crash"? Are you proposing that it was shot down?

    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    Now do you agree with my conclusion?
    You mean this conclusion?

    the most obvious conclusion is that the very few photos of parts allegedly unearthed were staged and nothing was really buried in the ground
    No, I don't.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...5160-5,00.html

    "Mr. Stull did not tell us anything about witnesses who had seen the plane," Wisnewski told Der Spiegel. That's certainly possible, but they do exist, and they're not difficult to find.

    One of them is Lee Purbaugh, a laborer from Shanksville. The moment that seemed "like an eternity" to him has remained deeply embedded in his memory. He says that an "unbelievably loud roar" caused him to look up at the sky, where the giant airplane suddenly seemed suspended "practically over my head." Seconds later, at 10:06 a.m., the Boeing plunged into the ground.

    Another witness is named Eric Peterson. He was standing in his store when he heard the noise of the plane's engines. He stepped outside and watched the United Airlines jet until it disappeared behind a nearby hill. Then a fireball erupted. Peterson immediately jumped into his SUV and drove to the site of the crash.

    When he arrived, he saw aircraft debris spread across a large area surrounding the impact crater, which he said was "still burning." According to Peterson, "bits of clothing were hanging" in the branches of the surrounding trees.

    There was so much evidence of a plane crash lying around that FBI employees and crash investigators from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) spent thirteen days recovering the wreckage. The heaviest piece of wreckage that was found, part of an engine, weighed almost a ton. This was certainly much heavier than the supposedly "indefinable 'scrap' found at the 'crash site' of flight UA 93," about which Wisnewski speculates.

    Moreover, there was nothing particularly mysterious about the subsequent handling of the wreckage. For the duration of the investigation, the remains of the jet were placed under an FBI guard. Once the investigators had completed their search for evidence, the standard procedure following a plane crash was followed. The parts were returned to the owner of the aircraft. In the case of the United Airlines Boeing, the owner was the airline's insurance company, the United States Aircraft Insurance Group (USAIG), which is headquartered in New York.
    I don't believe the photos were staged. Whether the debris were buried or not is a separate issue.
    How nice it would be if everyone judged their party by the same high standards that they use to judge the other party.


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    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    Well of the measly three pieces of debris supposedly unearthed, here's evidence the black boxes were planted:

    Back in Black boxes
    More evidence 'Flight 93 recorder' photo was staged

    And here's evidence that single engine was planted and the story about the other engine changing a bunch of times:

    The Little Engine That Couldn't


    OK, I showed you my evidence. Where's your evidence most of the plane buried?

    You call that truther fabrication, 'evidence'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDave View Post
    How can a plane "not necessarily crash"?
    That's not what I meant.

    Are you proposing that it was shot down?
    Nope.

    You mean this conclusion?

    No, I don't.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...5160-5,00.html
    What does that article prove about the alleged buried debris?

    Couldn't help giggle about this: "Moreover, there was nothing particularly mysterious about the subsequent handling of the wreckage. For the duration of the investigation, the remains of the jet were placed under an FBI guard."

    I don't believe the photos were staged. Whether the debris were buried or not is a separate issue.
    Well that's the issue, where was most of that "recovered 95%" of the plane after this supposed crash? It's got to be somewhere, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStrSt8 View Post
    You call that truther fabrication, 'evidence'?
    Which of it was fabricated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    What does that article prove about the alleged buried debris?
    Nothing but it does establish that eyewitnesses said that there were debris everywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    Which of it was fabricated?
    The logic -- or lack there of. Their facts and assertions don't support their conclusion. It's nothing more than circumstantial evidence, cherry picked facts and assumptions.

    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    Well that's the issue, where was most of that "recovered 95%" of the plane after this supposed crash? It's got to be somewhere, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    Couldn't help giggle about this: "Moreover, there was nothing particularly mysterious about the subsequent handling of the wreckage. For the duration of the investigation, the remains of the jet were placed under an FBI guard."
    If you find that FBI involvement in the investigation of the crash mysterious, then I am pretty sure that NO evidence would be accepted by you and would be dismissed as faked or just another part of the "conspiracy".

    But I am curious, if you accept the fact that Flight 93 crashed there and was not shot down, what does the fact that no one can prove to your satisfaction that most of it was buried matter? And how does that prove that the debris photos were staged? Would you require photos of enough debris to reconstruct an entire 757? And what source for these photographs would you trust?
    How nice it would be if everyone judged their party by the same high standards that they use to judge the other party.

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    Repeated opportunities to present ANY proof of Flight 93 buried. None offered, AGAIN.
    Psssst...that's probably because, guess what...IT WASN'T BURIED, and therefore, THERE ISN'T ANY EVIDENCE TO PRESENT, because, well, IT DOESN'T EXIST!
    EVERYBODY call in sick tomorrow, then watch real change begin. Hit the corporate fat cats directly in the pocketbook.

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    The evidence for the crash, and the direct source for those who worked the scene have been posted. Numerous times.

    Those truly seeking evidence would stop whining and go to the source.
    "Keep on rockin' in the free world" ~ Neil Young

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    Quote Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud View Post
    Psssst...that's probably because, guess what...IT WASN'T BURIED, and therefore, THERE ISN'T ANY EVIDENCE TO PRESENT, because, well, IT DOESN'T EXIST!
    Okay . . . where is your proof that it wasn't buried?
    How nice it would be if everyone judged their party by the same high standards that they use to judge the other party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    Which of it was fabricated?
    well,'evidence' of the black boxes being 'planted,of engine parts being 'planted'.....THAT part,to start with

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDave View Post
    So, just to be clear, are you saying all of the exhibits and info on this page are faked?

    http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Un...ines_Flight_93
    Where are the photos of the bouncing engine?

    Lots of photos, but none of the engines, recovery, transportation, etc, etc, etc.
    They do NOT want to rock the boat, their self interests supercede the future of this nation and even the future of their childrens children. They are a DNA remnant of what their forefathers were. Sacrifice is not in their makeup or character. __________________

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