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Old 07-04-2008, 11:36 AM
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As reported in the respected German daily Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung (FAZ) on Sept. 14, 2001 the German intelligence service, the BND, warned both the CIA and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists were “planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and Israeli culture.” The story specifically referred to an electronic eavesdropping system known as Echelon, wherein a number of countries tap cell phone and electronic communications in partner countries and then pool the information. The BND warnings were also passed to the United Kingdom.

No known denial by the BND of the accuracy of this story exists, and the FAZ story indicates that the information was received directly from BND sources.

According to a Sept. 14 report in the Internet newswire online.de, German police, monitoring the phone calls of a jailed Iranian man, learned the man was telephoning USG intelligence agencies in summer 2001 to warn of an imminent attack on the World Trade Center (WTC) in the week of Sept. 9. German officials confirmed the calls to the USG for the story but refused to discuss additional details.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RUP204A.html


This clearly states it was not denied and the information was clearly explained as to how it was gathered. You just like to lie to yourself and feel like you ended the converstation so no one will talk about it.
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:39 AM
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Hmmm..... Russians making themselves look good while making us look bad. Who can question it? Our government says they never received such calls. The Russian government can't produce evidence or transcripts of said calls. I chalk that one up to politics.

And this one now dead because of the Plutonium? poisoning. How convenient!
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:44 AM
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And this one, of course, turned out to be a complete farce. Turns out it was a non-descript text message that said nothing about New York and the NY office of Odigo wasn't even close to the WTC.
You say I don't have proof, but where is your proof to back this up? Let's see some proof.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:23 PM
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This clearly states it was not denied and the information was clearly explained as to how it was gathered. You just like to lie to yourself and feel like you ended the converstation so no one will talk about it.
You DO realize you just linked the same guy from a different web sirte, right? The least you could do is get someone who is NOT a "truther" to verify his own story.
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The floors were concrete, between 3 to 5 inches. Concrete doesn't burn and if you had bothered to read at least part of the official report you would know the whole excuse as to why the building stayed on fire and burnt to the temperature it did was because the iron inside the metal beams lit on fire. The government report said it and you are rebuking their own evidence.
Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Pure unadulterated bull(*)(*)(*)(*). NOWHERE does the official report (or any other report I've read) claim that the iron caught fire. If you believe this to be true, please provide a source.

As for the floors, nobody has said the floors were burning. See, apparently you've never been in a skyscraper occupied by one or more businesses. There is tons (literally) of material in the standard office space that can burn. Everything from paper to furniture to walls to carpet. Considering the rentable space for each floor of the WTC was around an acre, that is a LOT of combustable material to burn.
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And this one now dead because of the Plutonium? poisoning. How convenient!
Wow. Can you get ANY facts straight?

The spy's name was Alexander V. Litvinenko and he died of polonium 210poisoning, not plutonium poisoning.

The funny thing is Litvinenko suspected Russia of at least profiting from 9/11 which is exactly my point. Thanks for pointing him out. Source
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You say I don't have proof, but where is your proof to back this up? Let's see some proof.
Ask and ye shall receive.

Here is the original article that broke the story. Nowhere in the story does it claim any details of the attack mention WTC, nor did the workers realize there might be a connection until after the attacks occured.

Second, the messages were sent to the office in Israel. If the messages were meant to warn of the attacks, why didn't they send the messages to people in NYC instead of Israel?

Here is the clarification directly from Odigo that the messages did NOT mention the WTC.

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Diamandis today in a telephone interview also said the warning message did not identify the World Trade Center as the attack target. Diamandis declined to reveal any other information contained in the message, including whether the warning named the targets for the attack.

"Providing more details would only lead to more conjecture," he said.
Good enough?
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Face it Patriot. These guys have absolutely no concrete proof WHATSOEVER. They are just paranoid...and can't accept what happened on 9/11 because they lack the understanding of the situation...it's something that they simply can't grasp. Keep debunking though
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:32 AM
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I've yet to see you post what you consider it's valid points.
The video is on line. I'm not going to waste time arguing it with you. You've clearly made up your mind before ever even watching it. Again, if something in the documentary is false, then PROVE IT.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:17 AM
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The video is on line. I'm not going to waste time arguing it with you. You've clearly made up your mind before ever even watching it. Again, if something in the documentary is false, then PROVE IT.
You got that right. It is a steaming pile of crap and I'm not going to waste my time AGAIN on another "truther" pack of lies.

Again, if there is some revelation in your crapumentary that you believe is relevant, post it and we will discuss it. Since you can't seem to do this and instead insist on everyone watching a video nobody but a truther would bother with, I am guessing there is absolutely nothing new in the video but the same tired old lies which you can't repost without looking like a fool.

As for proving it false, how about you proving it is correct? The burden of proof is on you guys because we've already proven our side. We have the experts, the video proof, the physical evidence and the testimonial evidence. You have.... um.... Alex Jones.
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