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Old 02-28-2008, 02:42 PM
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However USA ranks 24th in Death by Murder rate (with Western EU countires, asia pacific rim countries ranked well below) usa ranks currently 6th Murder by gun.

Use relative statistics when talking about this issue, dont white wash it like politicians in the press.

I didn't white wash anything. The point is that even though the US has the highest number of guns per capita of any country, we rank 24th over in murders per capita, well behind countries that have far fewer guns per capita.

That clearly proves that a high ratio of guns are not the problem, something that bugalugs wrongly claimed in another 'gun' thread.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:11 AM
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I didn't white wash anything. The point is that even though the US has the highest number of guns per capita of any country, we rank 24th over in murders per capita, well behind countries that have far fewer guns per capita.

That clearly proves that a high ratio of guns are not the problem, something that bugalugs wrongly claimed in another 'gun' thread.

hmmm...the WHO ranks the USA #1 in the world with diagnosed mental disturbances...which is considerably more due to the absence of health care and how many go untreated, etc. Interesting that the world's craziest people have stockpiles of guns...then again, it seems to be a common thing about every 6 months to hear of yet another random, mass shooting in the usa...in order to keep your guns, these inccidents and victims are obviously "acceptable".
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:54 AM
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hmmm...the WHO ranks the USA #1 in the world with diagnosed mental disturbances...
'Diagnosed'?


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which is considerably more due to the absence of health care
What 'absence of health care'?

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and how many go untreated, etc. Interesting that the world's craziest people have stockpiles of guns...then again, it seems to be a common thing about every 6 months to hear of yet another random, mass shooting in the usa...in order to keep your guns, these inccidents and victims are obviously "acceptable".
All the more reason to own guns so we can defend ourselves from these 'crazy' people.

In case you didn't know it, the US has the highest gun ownership per capita of any nation in the world, yet ranks 24th in murders per capita.

Obviously, guns are not the cause of murder.........
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Time to change the subject and derail this thread:




'Diagnosed'?




What 'absence of health care'?



All the more reason to own guns so we can defend ourselves from these 'crazy' people.

In case you didn't know it, the US has the highest gun ownership per capita of any nation in the world, yet ranks 24th in murders per capita.

Obviously, guns are not the cause of murder.........
in case you havent seen the recent statistics...on that particular list America has moved up to 21st. for deaths by guns (not just murder) America ranks 4th.

stick to the issue and stop using whatever statistic you can remotely connect to give credence to your opinion. the actual statistic you want doesnt really support your position, so no wonder you ignored it.

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Guns do not kill people, only people do! And people already killed each other long long long before the first gun was invented, and people still kill each other even without guns!

It's the old question, who controls the controller? In case only one side is armed, the controller, the people are defenseless against tyranny. Dictators in always always, as far as possible, first disarmed their subjects before they shower their real face and that for good reason! An armed population is a good reminder for the people in power no to go to far! In Europe "our" leaders don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about what the people think and why should they? The founders of America were smart and well aware of the fact that an armed population constitutes the last defense against tyranny! Hitler, Stalin, they all disarmed the population before it became ugly!
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in case you havent seen the recent statistics...on that particular list America has moved up to 21st. for deaths by guns (not just murder) America ranks 4th.
Yet the US has the most guns per capita of any country in the world.

Proof again that guns aren't the problem.


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stick to the issue
That's funny coming from you. You keep tossing in all sorts of unrelated issues, an example would be your previous post in which you claimed the US has an 'absence of health care'. Another would be your mention of 'diagnosed mental disturbances'

Not really sure how those were topical, but YOU brought them up, not me.






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and stop using whatever statistic you can remotely connect to give credence to your opinion.
What am I supposed to do, just sit back and allow you and others make false claims without challenging them?

This is a forum for debate, last I heard.......


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the actual statistic you want doesnt really support your position, so no wonder you ignored it.
My position? Which position would that be? [Don't say 'doggie style'....]


And what have I ignored?


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PS, how did you like my gunbarrel pic?....did that with my digital, with optical lens drive...a piece of cardboard with a small hole punch in it...to keep the barrel in focus. the real bond.
Cool. What kind of gun?

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