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Since there is the matter of the killing of an innocent human being, it will likely be recriminalized.
In no instance on earth is a person required to provide his/her body to save the life of "an innocent human being", or even required to provide a non-essential part of his/her body. No one is ever required to provide blood, an extra kidney, bone marrow, so why should a woman be required to provide her uterus?
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In no instance on earth is a person required to provide his/her body to save the life of "an innocent human being", or even required to provide a non-essential part of his/her body. No one is ever required to provide blood, an extra kidney, bone marrow, so why should a woman be required to provide her uterus?
Because her actions brought that human being into being. The child itself is a direct result of her actions. That is why! Never in any other situation is that the case!
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Because her actions brought that human being into being. The child itself is a direct result of her actions. That is why! Never in any other situation is that the case!
In any other situation, when a person's actions cause a reaction, the person has every right, even an obligation, to set the situation right, to undo the reaction. A person "owns" the result of his/her actions. To force a woman to a certain course of action that is opposed to her own well-being can only be considered a punishment for wrongful actions.
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Because her actions brought that human being into being. The child itself is a direct result of her actions. That is why! Never in any other situation is that the case!
That is irrelevant. If I hit you with my car by accident and one of your organs fails, I am not obliged in any way to provide you with the function of any of my organs even if you die as a result of the accident. I am not even required to give you a pint of blood.
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Well there is no rational argument that a fetus is not a human being or person, so legalized abortion will eventually be overturned.
That is not the topic of the thread.
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In any other situation, when a person's actions cause a reaction, the person has every right, even an obligation, to set the situation right, to undo the reaction. A person "owns" the result of his/her actions. To force a woman to a certain course of action that is opposed to her own well-being can only be considered a punishment for wrongful actions.
But this does not force her to do something that is against her well being.
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That is irrelevant. If I hit you with my car by accident and one of your organs fails, I am not obliged in any way to provide you with the function of any of my organs even if you die as a result of the accident. I am not even required to give you a pint of blood.
That is a ridiculous argument and my comments were relevant!!!! When you run your car into someone you are not creating that person's very being. When you become pregnant with someone you have created that person.
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That is not the topic of the thread.
SO what. Do you have a point to make?
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SO what. Do you have a point to make?
re read the OP - its pretty obvious.

there is an inconsistency in the law WRT the fact the child's death was counted in the road toll, but the driver was not charged with "dangerous driving causing death."


The woman was 34 weeks pregnant and the baby was viable outside the womb.

This thread is about the inconsistency in the law.

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That is a ridiculous argument and my comments were relevant!!!! When you run your car into someone you are not creating that person's very being. When you become pregnant with someone you have created that person.
Not the point. You are still responsible for any injuries that person has suffered. It matters not whether you created them, what matters is that you are responsible for their injury, or death.

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SO what. Do you have a point to make?
Yes, I do. Stay the hell on topic or stay out of the thread.

Read the OP. This is about an inconsistancy in the law, as Cassie says. This is not about whether abortion should be legal or not. If you want to debate that, find another thread.
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