Before the brain and heart develop, and even before movement occurs, the embryo is alive. Life starts at the first cell division.

You're not exactly making a strong case for yourself there...

A matter of opinion. Unfortunately the debate will probably never end. However, I'd rather it never end than see the day when a woman doesn't have control over her own reproductive system.

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Alright if the cell is alive to began with, what is it called when you destroy something alive? Murder! What do you call abortions? Murder! Even when an animal is killed it's Murder! Though I could care less about animals.

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Actually, friend, that's exactly where the debate lies. By definition, murder is "the unlawful killing of one human being by another." At what point is an embryo a human being? That's why there is so much controversy. Abortions can happen at any time between about 4 weeks and 6 months, during which the embryo develops significantly. However, there seems to be a disagreement as to when the fetus becomes a "baby" or a "person."

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The status of the human embryo is debated among bioethicists. Some ethicists believe that an embryo does, in fact, possess personhood. Gilbert Meileander, for example, identifies conception as the point at which a new individual human being comes into existence, since "when sperm and ovum join to form the zygote, the individual's genotype is established." However, human embryos have been cloned, in which case no new genotype is established.

Your right of course that this is where everything is focused on whether or not an embryo is a human being or not. Though lets not look at the developing stage, lets look at what it contains at that stage. Does an embryo have a brain, heart, lungs, etc...whether it's being being developed. As long as their is a trace of that, or activity among the embryo can you tell if it's human or not.

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Actually, it's not a debate as to whether or not it's human or not. Of course it's human. It's going to develop into a human being with 100% certainty. The debate is whether or not the developing embryo should be considered a person before it is fully developed.

The sex of the baby can't even be determined until the 9th week when the sex organs start to develop. Also, even though the fetus responds to prodding starting the second month of pregnancy, higher level brain function doesn't develop until much later in pregnancy.

So, simply saying that as long as the organs are developed, it's a person, doesn't exactly cut it. Would you feel bad about pulling the plug on someone who was brain dead? Probably not because they'll never recover. However, you seem to have quite a problem with aborting an embryo that has no cognitive brain function. Where is the difference at that stage?

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Bump.........

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What about the women who get aborted? They don't have control over their reproductive systems, for that matter they don't have control of whether they get to live.

I try, but it very hard

Abortion of a fetus so advanced it could perhaps live outside the womb is ethically troublesome, but otherwise abortions are obviously ok.

When cells start to join together (egg & sperm) and then start multiplying (pre fetus) there is life ... if the sperm was not introduced then the life would not begin ...

So - when did LIFE begin?

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