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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaler17 View Post
    This is nonsense as laws have already specifically stated that the zygote,embryo, fetus is a homo sapien by definition.

    And rightly so! You cannot deny a being its assigned genus simply because it is too young.

    But how many zygotes are aborted anyway? Are you suggesting that a lot of them are?
    The law has nothing to do with it, folks make dumb laws all the time. It is the law that is being debated here so using "the law" as an example as why something should be "the law" is a logical fallacy.

    If you claim there are no subject matter experts then you have no basis for your claim that a zygote is a human such that killing a zygote is homicide.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaler17 View Post
    But how many zygotes are aborted anyway? Are you suggesting that a lot of them are?
    There could be a lot of them IF you consider hormonal birth control causing the uterine lining to be unreceptive to implantation to be an abortion. Seems a lot of people do consider that hence the proliferation of "personhood amendments."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    There could be a lot of them IF you consider hormonal birth control causing the uterine lining to be unreceptive to implantation to be an abortion. Seems a lot of people do consider that hence the proliferation of "personhood amendments."
    Could be, "if" blah blah, blah. Just couldn't bring yourself to say none could you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaler17 View Post
    Could be, "if" blah blah, blah. Just couldn't bring yourself to say none could you!
    You don't consider it a homicide when a zygote, that which you claim is a person, doesn't implant to the uterine wall and is expelled from the uterus and dies due to the woman taking hormonal birth control to literally prevent implantation of fertilized ovums? It's suddenly not a homicide when she is intentionally preventing and expelling it from her uterus in this manner?

    It's only murder AFTER it's implanted? Maybe you should rethink your idea of when a zygote should be considered a person because it seems to me that you only think it's a person after it's implanted to the uterine wall and not before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Your ignorance is exceeded only by your self inflated ego.
    Of 50 states in the union, you can cite 6, where ignorant closed minded legislatures whose opinions you share, passed moronic laws that you seem to think are great and you think that proves and absolute. How much more laughable can you get?
    So are you denying that you outright lied? Even in the face of irrefutable evidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaler17 View Post
    So are you denying that you outright lied? Even in the face of irrefutable evidence?
    actually the lie was yours, but I stopped counting.
    The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    actually the lie was yours, but I stopped counting.
    There you go lying again.
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