Thread: Abortion is a Homicide

Originally Posted by sec

my 2nd child wasn't planned

would you care to call her cell phone and explain that she was nothing more than a parasite for 9 months?

You did not now that you where pregnant for 9 months?

Originally Posted by Whaler17

Read the links above, they prove your assertion wrong.

I did read your OP and I do not see my assertion as wrong. Most of the OP seems irrelevant. I think many of you people are emotionally attached to this topic to a point of irrationality. You have tunnel vision and fail to think with reason.

Originally Posted by Bain

You did not now that you where pregnant for 9 months?

care to explain how that makes any sense at all? Did you even bother to read the post to which I was responding?

Originally Posted by Bain

I did read your OP and I do not see my assertion as wrong. Most of the OP seems irrelevant. I think many of you people are emotionally attached to this topic to a point of irrationality. You have tunnel vision and fail to think with reason.

Interesting that you would say that, yet provide nothing of substance to back up your assertion. Perhaps you are projecting.

Originally Posted by Wanderer

So, by the definitions you provide, abortion is a non-criminal homicide. That works for me.



I must point out that regardless of how something is defined in a given Law Dictionary, many state statutes define the terms used within the statutes differently.

Typically, state statutes define a "person" as a human who is "born alive". There's no doubt that a fetus is "human" but in most states, they're not a legal "person" until they are born alive.

This is proven wrong by the 32 or so fetal homicide laws currently enacted.

Originally Posted by Giftedone

I am not the one claiming it is a homicide .. you are.

The simple fact that women are not charged with homicide after having an abortion is "proof" that the law does not consider abortion a homicide.

duh

This has been proven wrong repeatedly. Women who have abotrions after the arbitrary age threshold ARE CHARGED WITH MURDER!

Originally Posted by LibertarianFTW

"Fetus" literally translates to "a very young one."

That's nice. Since we're using English, and not Latin, I'm not sure what your point is.

Guess what "one" means in this context.

An unborn human embryo. Not a "baby".

Originally Posted by Whaler17

This is proven wrong by the 32 or so fetal homicide laws currently enacted.

So far, you've just made an unsupported claim.

Originally Posted by Wanderer

That's nice. Since we're using English, and not Latin, I'm not sure what your point is.

You're the one who brought up the Latin term, not me.

An unborn human embryo. Not a "baby".

A fetus is always an embryo?

Originally Posted by Whaler17

Show me. I don't beleive that is true.

In Illinois "Use of deadly force justified if the unlawful entry is violent, or the person believes the attacker will commit a felony upon gaining entry."

In Indiana "A person: (1) is justified in using reasonable force, including deadly force, against another person; and (2) does not have a duty to retreat; if the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent or terminate the other person's unlawful entry of or attack on the person's dwelling..."

etc.

So, I guess that technically I was mistaken. Effectively that's what the law says in some states.