As I said before. My youngest son was born at 21 weeks gestation, he weighed one pound nine ounces and was 10.6 inches long when he was born. I was deployed shortly after she got pregnant. She was high risk since we first found out she was pregnant. She was bed ridden before she got into the second trimester, and I mean sponge baths and using a bed pan.

When he was born early I was sent home to help her out. He spent four months in the NICU, and a month and a half in the transactional ward. At three days of age they took him off the vent and placed him on a CPAP, two days later he developed nymphomania. And had to be placed back on the vent, he spent the next two months having a machine breathe for him.

Her life was in danger the whole time. My son will be two years old soon.

Should she had gotten an abortion?

And if you would read my post again, you will see that I did not judge her, but I did tell her what it sounded like.

If you think Abortion is wrong then YOU should adopt at least one Child. If you don't then your just Passing the buck!!!!!!!![/quote]
So you are calling on conservatives to FIX the problem that others started. So, instead of having their own kids that they can afford, they should adopt and spend a ton of money to adopt one that isn't even blood. I have a better idea, maybe all conservatives should buy a box of condoms for the poor...there are tons of canned food drives, why not birth control drives as well?? Oops, I guess that wouldn't be politically correct.

It is covered by our provincial health plan. The only thing you pay for in Canada is procedures that are strictly cosmetic, dentisty and medications.

For the other guy... I have a personal and family history of depression.. I feel the stress of the public knowledge that I am 'giving away my baby' and our break up and the risks associated with the pregnancy are too great for my mental health. Plus I was doing a detox and cleanse when I got pregnant so some of the herbs have mutation risks and my anti-depressants have risks of heart conditions. Getting left from a 6 year relationship is hard enough to deal with.

Here in America, I have a problem with my tax dollars going to pay for Federally funded abortions. So it seems Canada's government also sponsors them.

Anyway, that is besides the point, your situation is certainly compelling and understandable.
I am personally against abortion, but I wish you well with your decision and Godspeed to you.

Ok no you weren't judging her perhaps - but it kind of sounded a bit like that!

And my pregnancy is in high-risk category as well. Which is why I am being monitored closely the whole way through it. But that is due to my extremely high risk of developing post-natal depression after delivery and because of some medication I'm on, not for a more common reason such as pre-eclampsia or anything like that. I also have a low-lying anterior placenta, which could mean a caesarian delivery.

I'm not aborting (obviously) - not all high risk pregnancies should abort.

What I'm saying in this woman's case which is different to your own is that she does not have the support network, the relationship with her husband, the security or anything else that you had to be able to make your extremely difficult situation tenable. And that does need to be taken into consideration - absolutely. If you are already at risk, and the circumstances of your life place you at even more risk - which does include mental and emotional risk, which does affect the health of the baby - then abortion is an option that should be considered. It's not the best option, but that's life sometimes. We have to judge each case on its individual merit and I still believe that the life and well being of the mother can and should sometimes outweigh that of the unborn child.

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That sucks. C-sections are not too rough to recover from (according to the wife). But they can leave a nasty scar if it is an emergency C. And the vertical scar does not heal up as well. But that is a minor concern. I can not remember what the preexisting condition was that caused her to go early. But she had a still birth when she was younger due to a placental abruption. But she was able to carry Corrie (our oldest) almost to term, and Patrick was just shy of a month early. Our youngest was the rough one. She had internal and external cervical and placental bleeding since five weeks. And preterm labor started around ten weeks. Then at 21 weeks she abrupted, but luckily she went to the hospital the night prior because of bad contractions and they saw the warning signs.

And if it sounded like I was judging her, I am sorry, but she kind of said it in her own words. But anyway.

That is good that you are going through with it. And while I am not for abortion, I am also not about telling others how to live their life. I do not believe that one life is worth more than another. But not all people see it that way.

When I think of abortion, I think not only of my son, but of myself (yeah selfish I know), I turned out pretty good and I was adopted. I am sure it was hard for my biological mother, but I was better off where I grew up, and most definitely better off alive than dead. I know that I would give up all to give my children an opportunity to thrive.

My brother was also adopted (our mom could not have kids because of the medication she has to take for psoriasis), his bio was a woman who cheated on her husband and got pregnant, we do not know her whole story (closed adoption, he did try to find her, but closed adoptions are rather difficult, he did not want to reconnect, just wanted to say thanks.). But lucky for us she did not abort. She too ended up getting divorced. But she gave him a shot, and he is twenty five now, and just started his own business. Has a beautiful wife, and a son that is just younger than our youngest.

I am not trying to lay a guilt trip, just offering our story up for advise.

That is C-D-P's take on things. All we can do is voice opinions and let her make her own decision.

But echoing Herk, I do not want my money paying for that, and luckily in this case it is not.

"It kill's me the people who want to bring All these new Babies into the world won't spend the money to take care of them. Why don't all you Republican Christians start adopting kids with Down Syndrom, or Crack Babies or all the other poor kids with problems??"

Why don't liberal Democrats and unresponsible adults simply STOP acting like animals, use their heads, use birth control, and STOP getting pregnant when they don't want a baby and have no means to take care of one? After all, most of the rest of us do just that! We wait until we WANT a baby---we wait until we CAN AFFORD a baby---we wait until we CAN TAKE CARE OF a baby. God gave us brains so we could act like humans; not animals. There is such a thing as personal responsibility and it starts with YOU. (using "YOU" in the general sense)

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I thought the question would be better asked of Republicans this way:

Why do you care so much about the sanctity of life before it comes out of the womb, but the second it comes out into the world, that sanctity vanishes?

As for the original question, I pose that one for these Democrats that want a utopian world and to save the world. Why don't you go adopt some African babies or some homeless babies or some Chinese babies (before they get hit with the hammer of no human rights)? You want to save the world, start helping it. Don't force others to.

You can ask it that way, but it isn't true.



Many people do.




We're not forcing anybody to do anything.

It sure is. Give 'em eighteen years and they are ready to send them to unnecessary wars. So much for the sanctity of life. So much for the sanctity of life in killing innocent civilians daily.

Most I've come into contact with are hypocrites. They say, "We should help the world. Why don't you?" Then I ask them what they do and they don't do crap.

Actually, wealth redistribution and foreign aid are...