I believe that the Bible is true, however I do not mention biblical truths when talking with atheits becasue it is a matter of faith. I dont believe you even need the Bible to argue the insanity of Abortion. If you saw your pregnant dog scraping its belly against a garden hoe in your back yard attempting to kill its young inside you would naturally assume your dog had lost its mind. But for some reason we would not hold ourselves to the same standard. Forget Darfur (not that is not horrible), Abortion is our modern day genocide. If we continue to evolve in thought as people (which is debatable) we will look back on all this murder and wonder (like many present day Germans) how we let this happen.

So abortion is wrong because the bible says it is?

Get out of the bible box and think about the world as a whole, all the poor people that lack education to prevent themselves having all these babies they cant handle, why not give the the right to choose to have an abortion or not?

What is so wrong to give people the choice? Its better then it being outlawed and people doint it anyway, without any security.

Where would you draw the line on choice then? Does choice rule the day and people can do whatever they choose? Do you think your mother should have had the option to have aborted you if she wanted to? My mother wasn't and idiot but if she was I sure would have apprecited a law to prevent my murder.

Yes, I believe she should have had the right to abort me if that was her wish

how much of an hypocrit would I be if I said no?

And suicide is a choice, but no one talks about it because it does not affect anyone (physically) but the person that commited it.
Abortion, for some people, is murder. I dont see it that way. If people started killing their grandpas and saying that they were unwanted so they should have the choice to kill them, I would be the most fierce opposition to that idea.
I just do not see as muder stopping hte growth of something that is not alive. Simple.

Yeah you are simple, first of all for an intelligent human being to say that they should not have had a chance at life if someone else decided so is really SIMPLE. I am glad you are at least against euthanasia, however your science is horrible. The infant is alive the whole time hence the BEATING HEART the reason why people like you cannot see the light on this issue isn't becuase you are stupid but that you have bought the liberal agenda on this and because you view your world through that idealogy, and you CHOOSE not to think about it as a rational human would.

First, i never said anything about being against euthanasia. It was a hypothetical I created to make a point.
Its funny, if I said I didnt agree with my mom having hte right to abort me, you would give me hell for not sticking to my beliefs, now that I said that I do think she had that right, Im stupid because, when I was just cells, I didnt have a sense of autopreservation? The only time that this view would have make a difference for me was when I was a clump of cells, and, like said before, I wanst alive then.
I dont have a liberal agenda, i have my views. So if you thin krationality constitute in giving rights to cells instead of full fledge humans and believe in an invisible being that cannot be proven, I do not sahre your views.
At least im not saying you are not a "rational human", as I dont like that kind of attitude, but that your rationality differs from mine. and Ill say it again, Simple.

I think many democrats including myself would be perfectly willing to support something of a compromise bill. I also think that an abortion at 24 weeks is utterly unacceptable, UNLESS the pregnancy is going to be fatal to the mother, or UNLESS it is a 14 yr old girl who was raped by her dad and kept inside the house(it has happened, go look it up), or any number of other unique circumstances.

The problem is, most republicans see things in black and white on this issue. Several such bills banning late-term abortions have been introduced in the past and had a lot of democratic support but it was the republicans who refused to pass it because it had allowances for special circumstances. Yes: a mother has the right to abort even a late term fetus if it is going to kill her. You can debate whether or not that is the right decision, but she should be allowed to make it. Anything else is just legislating religious moral perspective.

Why stop at 24 weeks, why not stop at 24 years?

There are plenty of people 24 years old and younger whose abortion would be beneficial to society.

We could start in the ghettos and move from there to the MTV Awards then to San Francisco.

Whaoh, let's start at the beginning. Imagine that we are sane people here, and we selected at thread on abortion at the age of twenty-four weeks. Now, imagine that you found someone proposing that we kill people in ghettos. Now, the literary device used by Billybob is saying that killing at twenty-four weeks is to kill at twenty-four years, which is generally an anti-abortion statement. And, we know that Billybob is no fan of abortion, so it follows that he is not one for the murder of twenty-four year old people. However, I am ?deeply troubled? by the ?enthusiasm? for killing ghetto residents below the age of twenty-four. Billybob, I implore you to refrain from epithets of any sort, racist or otherwise, even as a joke. We are debating abortion, not making provocative statements about race.

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