I use that idea because it is the best solution the US has even the slightest chance of accepting. We probably wont be ready for a better plan such as "stay out of people's personal lives" until the rest of the conservative republicans die off.

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Allow me to tell you a story. My son, Thomas, was a micro-preemie born at 25 weeks. Only ONE week before, we could have aborted him under the laws of the state of Nevada. He was 1lb 8.5ozs. (born by emergency c-section). From the moment he was born, I was there with him. I put the tip of my finger into his little, tiny hand and he gripped it with all of his might, until his entire hand turned white. He had fingernails, and tiny little eyelashes. He was a person, a human being.

At what point can we determine when he stopped being a "fetus" and started being a person? Who is qualified to decide this?

This is why I must stand against elective abortions in general, but ESPECIALLY late term. I do believe that in cases of extreme danger to the mother then abortion should be legal.

BTW, Thomas is in Kindergarten now and doing just fine..

My $.02

ONE week, wow. theres less time between sperm/egg to the point of conception. now theres some perspective. unless the unborn can be kept alive outside of a womans body, the decision should be hers.

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Sometimes it's hard to tell if someone is being silly, or trying to make a lagit point. Can you clarify this?

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I would say that the Govt. has a vested sacred duty to protect the innocent from those who pose them harm. The Govt. has a stake in who gets a driver's license. The Govt. has a stake in who gets to practice medicine. The Govt. even has a stake in who gets to be a police officer, carry a gun or performs that abortion.

Do you think for half a second, that if the will of the majority of us with common sense couldn't be enforced on the dullards of our society, that they would all just suddenly stop taking off their seatbelts and helmets and driving at 120 mph through intersections?

If you were a 24 week old baby in the womb, and you could vote, do you think you would want Hillary or Obama in the white house? Honestly!

Thank God this country still has a majority that thinks with a decent measure of conscience.

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That criterion is completely arbitrary, there's no more reason for that point than any other point.

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nope, sorry blade. viability isnt arbitrary, roe v wade.

there is definitely more reason for it. the baby can survive outside of the mothers body and is responsive to stimuli at that point, too. the conception argument declares when life begins for no reason. life doesnt appear spontaneously. thats why the beginning of life is irrelevant, but its the position the religious (usually) right likes to take for some strange reason.

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Good point, in an issue of sentimental rights, one should conjure some sort of middle ground. Why not try a lesser civil case after a doctor assumes this period has passed? (Except in those issues of health deterioration)

It gives the woman sufficient time to plan and decide her abortion. But then we raise the question of those who cannot aford it. Would the government include this in health maintenance organizations? Probably not, it isn't necessary and would cost too much; now we may see there are more strings attached than before on the issue. It's more red tape, and the fed. has probably beaten these issues to death a few times before.

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little of both, the point being that that is about as outrageous as banning abortion.

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Consider the first:
Very biased.

The second:
Conscience must be balanced with power, if a government has only one, it has (or will have) neither.

I think our judicial system shows a little of both.

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