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  • It is okay to coerce a woman into keeping her baby

    11 36.67%
  • It is okay to coerce a woman into having an abortion

    3 10.00%
  • It is never okay to coerce the woman into doing anything against her will

    17 56.67%
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Thread: Question For Pro Lifers: Is It Okay To Coerce A Woman Into Keeping Her Baby?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makedde View Post
    Okay, the article I was reading used divorce as a method of coercion. In other words, threatening to divorce the woman if she kept her baby, or threatening to divorce her if she had an abortion.

    What other specifics would you like provided? Is it okay to force a woman into keeping her baby? Is it okay to force her into having an abortion?

    I don't believe any of those is moral because both options take the decision away from the only person who can make the choice - the woman.
    That's not exactly the way things were presented in the poll since you didn't mention it was the woman's HUSBAND and FATHER OF THE CHILD who was doing the coercing.

    I know things are different Down Under, but doesn't it still take two people to create a baby? Why on earth should the father have NO SAY about his own child's future? Especially when you're talking life & death???


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    Quite simply because he should have no control over another person's body.

    And no matter what people might call themselves, they are not fathers or mothers until their child has been born alive.

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    For me this question deals with the greater of two evils; namely, it is better to coerce a woman or is it better to let her make her own choice, even if that choice involves what some would call the unnecessary destruction of human life? Put another way: which is more important, life or freedom from manipulation?

    It seems to be the omnipresent question of quantity or quality. On one hand, you can decrease the quality of life for two individuals, and on the other hand you can maintain or improve the current quality of life for one but prevent the second from ever having the chance to make such a qualification. Are the expenses of either course of action balanced? That's impossible to say. But for me personally, I am disgusted by the idea that somebody would want to trick, fool, or cheat my mother into doing something that she doesn't want to do - sort of sounds like rape, doesn't it? And, strangely enough, rape can create babies too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond lil View Post
    Quite simply because he should have no control over another person's body.

    And no matter what people might call themselves, they are not fathers or mothers until their child has been born alive.
    And their child can't be born alive if they abort it. Rather a catch 22, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    I know things are different Down Under, but doesn't it still take two people to create a baby? Why on earth should the father have NO SAY about his own child's future? Especially when you're talking life & death???
    It's a potential child. Must a wife give her permission for a vasectomy?
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
    It's a potential child. Must a wife give her permission for a vasectomy?
    Most of the time, yes. Most married men have to have their wife sign a form before they can get a vasectomy. It's not law, but it's common practice for urologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perdidochas View Post
    Most of the time, yes. Most married men have to have their wife sign a form before they can get a vasectomy. It's not law, but it's common practice for urologists.
    It's a policy for some doctors, not a law.
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond lil View Post
    Quite simply because he should have no control over another person's body.
    Why not? You are allowing the woman to have complete control over someone elses body, the child inutero.

    Quote Originally Posted by diamond lil View Post
    And no matter what people might call themselves, they are not fathers or mothers until their child has been born alive.
    You are completely wrong, but I think you know that.
    "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is. " - Not sure who

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
    It's a potential child. Must a wife give her permission for a vasectomy?
    Not really... a 'potential child' would be the kid you talk about having next year... not the one growing in the woman's uterus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    Not really... a 'potential child' would be the kid you talk about having next year... not the one growing in the woman's uterus.
    Do you know the percentage of fertilized eggs that actually survive to birth?
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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