Who is Having Abortions and why?

**Cady** · Oct 16 2011, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Pokerface

It doesnt matter who is killing babies. I dont care if you are a christian,jew,hindu,muslim,cat holic or rastafarian. ITS MURDER not matter who does it.

Murder is wrong no matter who does it.

53 million and counting. This nation will reap a huge harvest of blood for that. This nation murdered millions of slaves and it reaped a huge war for it. Millions died. Millions more will die in the near future because of this murdering.

Abortion isn't murder and it doesn't kill babies. Can you come up with a factual reason to oppose abortion? I didn't think so...

**Pasithea** · Oct 16 2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Unifier

One cannot opt into slavery. That's called indentured servitude. Which is the only argument you even have here if the sex was consentual.

Hasn't anyone told you yet? Consent to sex is NOT consent to pregnancy. All it is is consent to have sex. It is not consent to carry any pregnancy intended or unintended to full term unless explicitly spoken. And even then that consent can be withdrawn at any time up to 24 weeks in the United States should a pregnancy occur due to the consensual sex.

Originally Posted by Unifier

It woudn't tug on your heart strings at all if you truly believed it was just a clump of cells. The fact that you are emotionally affected shows that there still is a part of you somewhere that cannot ignore the idea of it being a child.

I have never once referred to the fetus as "just a clump of cells". So sorry, that's not going to work on me.

And where does it show that I am personally emotionally affected by people calling it a baby? I was merely pointing out the fact that lifers wish to make women feel like crap for having abortions by painting the fetus as something is most certainly not.

**Makedde** · Oct 16 2011, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Whaler17

I see "deathers" routinely bringing up rape and incest, which make up 1% of abortions though.

Lifers like to ask if its okay to kill a baby right before its born. They also like to mention 'stabbing it in the head', which is a reference to late term abortion, which accounts for less than 1% of abortions.

**Whaler17** · Oct 17 2011, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Makedde

Lifers like to ask if its okay to kill a baby right before its born. They also like to mention 'stabbing it in the head', which is a reference to late term abortion, which accounts for less than 1% of abortions.

Nope, don't see that here except maybe once a year, the deathers bringing up rape is nearly a daily thing.

**Pasithea** · Oct 17 2011, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Whaler17

Nope, don't see that here except maybe once a year, the deathers bringing up rape is nearly a daily thing.

It is generally brought up to see just how consistent the lifer's views are and see the underlying reasons they want women to be forced to carry unwanted pregnancy to term.

The fetus, whether it was conceived of rape or consensual sex is still just a fetus. However many lifers make exceptions for women who were raped simply because of HOW the fetus was conceived. If it was just about saving the life of fetus though how it was conceived should be irrelevant. A life is a life after all, right?

Often times the lifers who call for exceptions because of rape want to see women punished for CHOOSING to have sex and a woman who was raped didn't choose to have sex. See, it's all about how it was made and not about the fact that it's just a life they want to save. You too were once ok with abortions due to rape, so we all know why you really oppose abortion despite your many cries of it being a homicide.

**Whaler17** · Oct 17 2011, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Pasithea

It is generally brought up to see just how consistent the lifer's views are and see the underlying reasons they want women to be forced to carry unwanted pregnancy to term.

It is a red herring. 1% or less of abortions are due to rape.

Originally Posted by Pasithea

The fetus, whether it was conceived of rape or consensual sex is still just a fetus. However many lifers make exceptions for women who were raped simply because of HOW the fetus was conceived. If it was just about saving the life of fetus though how it was conceived should be irrelevant. A life is a life after all, right?

True! And that is the most difficult situation to reconcile because the woman didn't invite the child in, as is the case with the other 99+% of all abortions.

Originally Posted by Pasithea

Often times the lifers who call for exceptions because of rape want to see women punished for CHOOSING to have sex and a woman who was raped didn't choose to have sex. See, it's all about how it was made and not about the fact that it's just a life they want to save. You too were once ok with abortions due to rape, so we all know why you really oppose abortion despite your many cries of it being a homicide.

Nope, this is another emotional hype nonsense opinion that actual lifers do not hold. There is no "punishment" aspect at all. Abortion promoters desperately want that to be the motivation of lifers, but it simply isn't the case. Prohibiting a woman from killing her child is not punishing her. Any sane person undedrstands this.

**Colonel K** · Oct 17 2011, 08:40 AM

A woman didn't invite the child in? What kind of primitive logic is this? A sexual partner might be said to have been "invited in" but a child? Where was the child when it was supposedly invited? Ludicrous doesn't suffice to describe the idea.

**Whaler17** · Oct 17 2011, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Colonel K

A woman didn't invite the child in? What kind of primitive logic is this? A sexual partner might be said to have been "invited in" but a child? Where was the child when it was supposedly invited? Ludicrous doesn't suffice to describe the idea.

When you engage in a voluntary activity with known consequences, you can be said to have invited the consequences. Its logic, try some.