Thread: Who is Having Abortions and why?

Originally Posted by yguy

No, self-defense in this case is the woman saying no to the lowlife whose child she doesn't want to bear. Obviously no one can be defending himself except against a person who harbors intent to infringe on his liberties; and since you deny that an embryo or fetus is a person to begin with, you don't have a case.

So since a fetus isn't a person then there is nothing wrong with her having it removed from her body. It is her way of withdrawing the consent to put herself at every risk pregnancy carries with it as well.

Originally Posted by Pasithea

So since a fetus isn't a person then there is nothing wrong with removing it from her body.

Since your premise is a lie, your conclusion remains unfounded.

Originally Posted by Pasithea

It is her way of withdrawing the consent to put herself at every risk pregnancy carries with it as well.

If there is no other person involved, from whom is she withdrawing consent?

Originally Posted by yguy

If there is no other person involved, from whom is she withdrawing consent?

They have very poorly reasoned basis for their opinions on the subject, obviously.

Originally Posted by yguy

If there is no other person involved, from whom is she withdrawing consent?

If a woman does not consent or choose to remain pregnant and you or anyone else tells her she must remain pregnant and forces her to do so it becomes slavery. She has not consented to it and should not be forced to remain in her current physical state against her will.

Originally Posted by Pasithea

If a woman does not consent or choose to remain pregnant and you or anyone else tells her she must remain pregnant and forces her to do so it becomes slavery. She has not consented to it and should not be forced to remain in her current physical state against her will.

It just keeps getting better.

That is absurd. Nobody ever made a choice that involved a known risk and ended up enslaved.

Homicide for convenience should never be allowed.

Originally Posted by Pasithea

If a woman does not consent or choose to remain pregnant and you or anyone else tells her she must remain pregnant and forces her to do so it becomes slavery.

Any condition that one finds one's self in as a result of one's own stupidity is viewed as slavery if one is egotistical, but there is nothing moral about codifying law so as to cater to that mentality, especially at the expense of innocent lives.

Originally Posted by yguy

Any condition that one finds one's self in as a result of one's own stupidity

Well, since we are now debating slavery, by your logic the slave brought over from Africa were at fault for being captured and deserved to be slaves.

Originally Posted by prometeus

Well, since we are now debating slavery, by your logic the slave brought over from Africa were at fault for being captured and deserved to be slaves.

Only a complete moron could equate that to a woman engaging in a voluntary activity with known consequences, and encountering those consequences.

Originally Posted by prometeus

Well, since we are now debating slavery,

You have me confused with someone else.

by your logic the slave brought over from Africa were at fault for being captured and deserved to be slaves.

How that follows from anything I've said here I have no idea, but the vast majority were sold into slavery FROM slavery, in which they consented to live by their failure to resist their African despots, who could hardly have sold to slave merchants what they did not own.