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Old 03-07-2008, 12:51 AM
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So if I cause a car accident, I should be forced to donate blood to save the occupant of the other car?
No you are not forced to give blood, but what has that got to do with this debate. If you cause a car accident it is your insurance that pays for it, or if their is a death you might even go to jail. It was your fault so there is conseqeunces you have to accept. I have no idea why you are talking about giving blood.
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No you are not forced to give blood, but what has that got to do with this debate. If you cause a car accident it is your insurance that pays for it, or if their is a death you might even go to jail. It was your fault so there is conseqeunces you have to accept. I have no idea why you are talking about giving blood.
You said people should take responsiblity for their actions. You say if a woman gets pregnant, she should take responsibilty and have the baby.
I say that if I caused a car accident, should I be forced to help save the life of the person I injured?
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Yes even before birth, a female exists so of course that person should be allowed to live. Right to life extends further than right to birth.
if life is that important, than how come people's pets are put to sleep for simply biting a child that harrassed them into doing so? according to what you said, a clump of cells in the womb has more rights than man's best friend?
i know this is off topic, but in a way most issues are interconnected.
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if life is that important, than how come people's pets are put to sleep for simply biting a child that harrassed them into doing so? according to what you said, a clump of cells in the womb has more rights than man's best friend?
i know this is off topic, but in a way most issues are interconnected.
Human rights is the subject. That "clump of cells" is a human life at an early age. You may have a problem with nature. One would have to travel back in time hundreds of thousands of years to see just why humans have never treated animals equally. And then we'd have to discuss the reasons why other animals kill other species. Humans created the concept of rights and we define them as we see fit to promote equality. Human Rights refers to humans being treated equally.
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You said people should take responsiblity for their actions. You say if a woman gets pregnant, she should take responsibilty and have the baby.
I say that if I caused a car accident, should I be forced to help save the life of the person I injured?

There is responsiblity if you cause a car accident, you have to pay compensation. Or maybe even go to jail. It was your fault you are resopnsible. However this has nothing to do with wether you should give blood or not. If someone is badly hurt and needs life saving help, you may not need to give blood, but the hospital bills will come out of your pocket, because you were responsible. Plus this has nothing to do with the abortion topic we are discussing. Please stop wandering of and stick to the topic of this debate.
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There is responsiblity if you cause a car accident, you have to pay compensation. Or maybe even go to jail. It was your fault you are resopnsible. However this has nothing to do with wether you should give blood or not. If someone is badly hurt and needs life saving help, you may not need to give blood, but the hospital bills will come out of your pocket, because you were responsible. Plus this has nothing to do with the abortion topic we are discussing. Please stop wandering of and stick to the topic of this debate.
It has everything to do with abortion, if you are going to use the responsiblity excuse, I am going to compare that with other things.
If I injure another persons body, why should I not have to donate my blood or bodily organs to save that persons life, but I should be made to continue a pregnancy?
Both are issues of responsibility. Tell me why I am exempt from one but not the other.
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It has everything to do with abortion, if you are going to use the responsiblity excuse, I am going to compare that with other things.
If I injure another persons body, why should I not have to donate my blood or bodily organs to save that persons life, but I should be made to continue a pregnancy?
Both are issues of responsibility. Tell me why I am exempt from one but not the other.
Please you are just being absurd making ludicrus comparisons to something that is not even remotely similar to abortion. I have also pointed out their is consequences for your actions and in that case people are forced to take responsibilty, in a car accident. Also if you have a car accident you did not intentionally set out to kill a life, while with an abortion you do.
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Also if you have a car accident you did not intentionally set out to kill a life, while with an abortion you do.
Exactly.

In fact if you did kill someone intentionally with a car, you may pay the price with your own life depending on which country you're in and their legal system.
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In fact if you did kill someone intentionally with a car, you may pay the price with your own life depending on which country you're in and their legal system.
If I did injure someone intentionally, should I have to take responsibity and donate my bodily resources to keep that person alive?

You must say yes, as you expect me to take responsiblity when I have sex, but hitting someone with my car is okay because I shouldn't be forced to use my body to sustain their life?
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If I did injure someone intentionally, should I have to take responsibity and donate my bodily resources to keep that person alive?

You must say yes, as you expect me to take responsiblity when I have sex, but hitting someone with my car is okay because I shouldn't be forced to use my body to sustain their life?
If you intentionally hurt someone, you are to blame you must pay the consequences. This has nothing to do with giving blod or organs, you are make analogies that simply are daft. The simple fact of the matter is people have to take responsibilty for their actions it's that easy.
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