i havent seen anything contradictory, shes seemed to be adamant about the mother having complete authority over her own pregnancy.

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Yet on a different thread, she says that cigarettes should be made illegal. So she has no real stake in individual rights. Only those that her opinions align with.

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Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'."

"There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

-Bob Dylan, greatest singer/songwriter ever to live.

Does a man have the right to be born? "No"

Does any person, as a pre-born individual, have any rights at all? No! Not until the nations of this world recognize that abortion is a human-rights issue.

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what? are you pro choice or life

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Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'."

"There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

-Bob Dylan, greatest singer/songwriter ever to live.

well, cigarettes can be harmful to others. but there are ways to mitigate that risk, so i wouldnt go so far as to outlaw them, although i dont see their purpose. thats really an unrelated issue, but i see your rationale.

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You justified it. All it takes is monitary reasons or other selfish reasons according to you to kill another human.

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Just because I support abortion, does not mean I, in any way, support or even justify the actions of a convicted killer. Don't insult me.

Kuta, I have said it once, and I will say it again, cigarettes have nothing to do with abortion, they are two completely separate issues, and if you had any sense at all, you would see that. This forum is to debate abortion, not compare it to smoking or drinking or anything else you try to use to make me look like a hypocrite.

You sicken me. If Lacey Peterson wished to obtain an abortion, at any stage of her pregnancy, that was HER right. She chose to keep her baby, so what Peterson did was murder, fetal homocide. I expect nothing less from pro lifers, always trying to claim pro choice people support murder and whatnot, which is total bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
Show me where I have said I support Peterson for his crimes? Show me my logic, because I know I have never, ever justified anything that man did, and never will.

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It was both of thier child, why does only the mother get the choice if it should live or not. It was just as much his baby as hers.

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"Your old road is Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'."

"There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

-Bob Dylan, greatest singer/songwriter ever to live.

its not his body.

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So, it is still his genes that are a part of that baby, why does he get no say. A man can't help the fact that a woman gets pregnant.

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"Your old road is Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'."

"There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

-Bob Dylan, greatest singer/songwriter ever to live.