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um, what the crap does that question mean?
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Does a woman have a right to be born.

No, because that woman isn't in existence. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and happiness. Since that 'woman' isn't born yet, "she's" is not entitled to that right. She wouldn't mind us refusing her that right anyway.
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Yes even before birth, a female exists so of course that person should be allowed to live. Right to life extends further than right to birth.
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based on what criteria do you value life, in general, sickntired? what motivates you to feel that a living thing has the right to life?
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based on what criteria do you value life, in general, sickntired? what motivates you to feel that a living thing has the right to life?
Life is the most basic thing we have. Without it there are no other rights to be had. Today only those chosen few get it. In a free society every human should be given the equal opportunity and it's our responsibility to provide that. With that said (and this isn't really related), I also support the right to die for those who choose it under the right circumstances and proven competence. Life's a choice one should make for himself.
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what about humans makes you feel theyre entitled to life from conception? are there specific qualities you value? do you feel the same thing for animals? whats your stance on the death penalty, and terminating life support?

i want to understand your perspective.
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what about humans makes you feel theyre entitled to life from conception?
The arbitrary moment that you can't seem to define doesn't justify giving them less rights at fetal stages.
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No, I don't consider animals equal to humans. They don't have the proper brain structure to take part in society and they are lower on the food chain. They do serve whatever purposes and shouldn't be abused.
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whats your stance on the death penalty, and terminating life support?
Death row prisoners have been given the right to live and they made the choice to take the lives of others. Since they don't have the right to kill others, killing them is a justifiable punishment.

People on life support are at the mercy of any wills, or guardians. They made their choices on guardians and legal documents so it is their will what the decision is.
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"The arbitrary moment that you can't seem to define doesn't justify giving them less rights at fetal stages."

why cant that apply to sperm?

"I don't understand. What type of qualities?"

any qualities. you kind of touched on this below.

"No, I don't consider animals equal to humans. They don't have the proper brain structure to take part in society and they are lower on the food chain. They do serve whatever purposes and shouldn't be abused."

embryos/early fetuses dont have proper brain structure to take part in society either. lower on the food chain doesnt really say much. we eat them because we can, thats all there is to it really. what is abuse? no mistreating/killing unless its for food? why is it not abuse when done with this purpose?

"Death row prisoners have been given the right to live and they made the choice to take the lives of others. Since they don't have the right to kill others, killing them is a justifiable punishment."

well, they didnt violate their "right to live." why isnt jailing them enough? if you kill them youre also take lives of others, isnt that kinda hypocritical in a prolife sense?

"People on life support are at the mercy of any wills, or guardians. They made their choices on guardians and legal documents so it is their will what the decision is."

embryos/early fetuses are at the mercy of their one guardian, and theyre even more unresponsive than most people on life support. they obviously cant make any choices without fully developed brains or means of communication.

do you see where im going with this?
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