Thread: Any lifer got the guts to debate me?

Originally Posted by churchmouse

See it is usually the people that have to resort to using profanity because they don't have anything else…and already….your doing it. LOL

You are here debating this because YOUR MOTHER GAVE YOU LIFE…..AND NOW YOU CAN BASH HER CHOICE RIGHT HERE….BY BEING PRO-ABORTION. LOL

as I have posted countless times to the pro-baby murderers in this forum, they themselves are a living, breathing, hypocricy.

Their mommies allowed them to live but they want to kill babies

Originally Posted by Independent77

Do you think that if you use enough big words or add another couple of isms to your post that you can overcome the fact that another preborn baby has just been aborted?

Yeah it was.
So what? Nothing wrong with abortion in my book.

Do you think that if you repeat enough times that killing fetuses is wrong, you can overcome the fact that it is just your subjective opinion most probably based on crazy christian morality?

Originally Posted by injest

so you are saying that secular humanists believe rape is ok? that pedophilia is ok? hmmm...I am relieved then that our laws are based on Christian values then and not any of the fringe cults you cite.

Why do you bring rape and pedophilia into this?
Secular humanists do not believe rape or pedophilic acts are OK, but most believe abortion (except late term) is OK.

Our laws are (thank god lol) not based on christian morals, since adultery, premarital sex, blasphemy and abortion are legal.

By the way, the bible does not say abortion is wrong at all.

Its funny to notice how polarised this issue is.

Conception! Birth! Conception! Birth!

It will be us, the centrists, that are victiorious in the end. Most of the world allows early-term abortion and restricts late-term ones.

I also urge US pro-life movement to aim their fight against late-term abortions. Not only is it not unconstitutional, but great majority of population (circa 80 %) supports bans or restrictions on these.

It is entirely realistic to succeed here, contrary to ban on abortion since conception, as that is impossible in current US political climate (and thankfully so).

For all other arguments against the pro-choice position, and for alkl those I said to wait for the thread, please go here:

That abortion is morally acceptable.

Remember to read the forum rules and answer relevantly and with logical argumentation, rather than emotional rethoric so I cna respond quickly and effectively tomorrow.

Originally Posted by sec

as I have posted countless times to the pro-baby murderers in this forum, they themselves are a living, breathing, hypocricy.

What do you mean "hypocrisy"? The fetus has no interest in being alive - I do. That's the difference.

Originally Posted by sec

Their mommies allowed them to live but they want to kill babies

Yeah, I eat babies for breakfast. Actually, jokes aside, I dont WANT to kill babies - I frankly dont care. What I want is recognition of interests - something a baby doesn't have.

Originally Posted by diamond lil

Woah...that's a lot of rambling away to yourself there, churchmouse.

Those of us who are pro choice care about people and the rights of people

You don't.

How can you say you value life…respect all life…when you want no PROTECTION…for the human life in the womb…and you are content to look away?

Would you do that if your neighbor were abusing his children?

Originally Posted by churchmouse

Anyone who is pro-choice/abortion does not think life is sacred or special.

Not when they are content to look the other way, not when they don't want protection for the life started in the womb.

This is...incorrect. On many levels.

I am not pro-abortion in any sense of the idea. It is a horrific act in my opinion. But so is an amputation. There are times it must be done. Medical reasons, such as an ectopic pregnancy-

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001897/

You probably should think about this more clearly. I'm a big fan of people making more people, but blocking the legality of abortion shouldn't be on your list when it is clearly the only option in some medical cases.

Yes it is an uncommon situation. But forcing abortion to be illegal condemns these women to death along with a certainly doomed child. I see no profit in dead women, particularly to their family.

Abortion should be left to people's consciences and to whatever moral code they adhere to if any. Not pro-abortion, but I am for freedom to choose. And then let people live with their decision.

MegadethFan said, "What do you mean "hypocrisy"? The fetus has no interest in being alive - I do. That's the difference."

How do you know the fetus has no interest in being alive? Do the mentally retorted want to be alive? How about those in comas? How about a newly born baby….do they want to be alive? Do they know what is going on?

Oh wait…you probably based on your stance alread….think like Sanger did that it would be ok to kill a newly born infant. Right?

"Yeah, I eat babies for breakfast. Actually, jokes aside, I dont WANT to kill babies - I frankly dont care. What I want is recognition of interests - something a baby doesn't have."

You don't care…..which is the stance of the pro-choice community. You don't care…simply do not care if human life is killed….even the innocent human life in the womb. Jokes aside….if we did that you couldn't debate could you…because you think this is funny. Even the tone of your thread is cocky.

You don't care……..THE PRO-ABORT/CHOICE BATTLECRY