Thread: the Personhood Act: the future of Humanity depends on it.

Originally Posted by constructionguy

....and that has what to do with abortions again ?

I find it hypocritical the same party that wants everyone to be equal, everyone to have a fair shot in life, so easily denies it before ever giving it a chance.

If every potential baby should be "given a chance," should contraception be illegal? A leading Republican candidate, Rick Santorum, seems to think so. But once all these babies are born, forget about health care or welfare. Speaking of hypocrisy...

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

Over time, abortions kill off generations. Read up.

•In 2008, approximately 1.21 million abortions took place in the U.S., down from an estimated 1.29 million in 2002, 1.31 million in 2000 and 1.36 million in 1996. From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions have occurred in the U.S. (AGI).
•In 2007, the highest number of reported legal induced abortions occurred in Florida (91,954), NYC (90,870), and Texas (80,886); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (9), South Dakota (707), and North Dakota (1,235) (CDC).
•The 2007 abortion ratios by state ranged from a low of 58 abortions per 1,000 live births in Idaho and South Dakota (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 737 abortions per 1,000 live births in NYC (CDC).
•The annual number of legal induced abortions in the United States doubled between 1973 and 1979, and peaked in 1990. There was a slow but steady decline through the 1990's. The number of annual abortions decreased by 2% between 2000 and 2007, with a slight spike in 2006. (CDC)

•In 1998, the last year for which estimates were made, more than 23% of legal induced abortions were performed in California (CDC).
•In 2005, the abortion rate in the United States was higher than recent rates reported for Canada and Western European countries and lower than rates reported for China, Cuba, the majority of Eastern European countries, and certain Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union (CDC).
•Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended; about 4 in 10 of these are terminated by abortion. Twenty-two percent of all U.S. pregnancies end in abortion. (AGI).



1.21 million babies in 2008? that's TWO GENERATIONS...

Again, how that implies that eventually there will be no humans? By the same logic contraception would cause the extinction of humanity.

Originally Posted by diamond lil

Really? What's the name of this sport?

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It's called Abortion.


Here are the very simple rules of this Sport:


Take 2 mindless individuals devoid of reason, regrect or morality, then have unprotected sex until climax. Both players have to make sure the deed is done so that none of the vital reproductive juices escape the playing field.

After that, One player can leave the game without a reason if he wants too, but the other player can wait from between 3 weeks after conception up to 3-4months of pregnancy before she can pull from the deck of "escape cards"(PP) to kill it that you see on the table. She has to time it just right so as not to jeopardize her health so she can be able to play the game again and again in the future without reprocussions.

The key to this game is to play it as many times as you can before you decide you want to keep your "trophy". Ultimately, there are no winners in this game. But it's sure a lotta fun ain't it??!!

Originally Posted by 4Horsemen

It's called Abortion.


Here are the very simple rules of this Sport:


Take 2 mindless individuals devoid of reason, regrect or morality, then have unprotected sex until climax. Both players have to make sure the deed is done so that none of the vital reproductive juices escape the playing field.

After that, One player can leave the game without a reason if he wants too, but the other player can wait from between 3 weeks after conception up to 3-4months of pregnancy before she can pull from the deck of "escape cards"(PP) to kill it that you see on the table. She has to time it just right so as not to jeopardize her health so she can be able to play the game again and again in the future without reprocussions.

The key to this game is to play it as many times as you can before you decide you want to keep your "trophy". Ultimately, there are no winners in this game. But it's sure a lotta fun ain't it??!!

And you believe that is what every woman having an abortion has done? What you are describing is actually a disorder called "Munchausen syndrome" and it is RARE

Originally Posted by Bowerbird

And you believe that is what every woman having an abortion has done? What you are describing is actually a disorder called "Munchausen syndrome" and it is RARE

No, NOt every woman. but every woman that mindlessly gets pregnant. read the game rules. they are clear.


the ratio of consenual pregnancies vs. rape is no contest. you can't make me believe even 50% of these abortions are from rape. I'm betting over 75% are consenual/then unwanted pregnanaices. post the stats if you got em. I bet rape is at the very bottom under broken rubbers. being sarcastic of course.

This game is a figment of your imagination.

Originally Posted by diamond lil

This game is a figment of your imagination.

Agreed

But sadly it is also reflective of a disturbing undercurrent of misogyny in the American culture. The misrepresentation of women who have abortions as "sluts" just going out and using abortion as contraception has embedded itself into the psyche of many so that it prevents the debater from seeing a differing view

Somehow they never ask themselves if such a person who is game playing in this way would make a good mother or would the child end up a born drug addict who is subsequently neglected

Originally Posted by Bowerbird

Agreed

But sadly it is also reflective of a disturbing undercurrent of misogyny in the American culture. The misrepresentation of women who have abortions as "sluts" just going out and using abortion as contraception has embedded itself into the psyche of many so that it prevents the debater from seeing a differing view

Somehow they never ask themselves if such a person who is game playing in this way would make a good mother or would the child end up a born drug addict who is subsequently neglected

sure, got any stats yet? I wanna be proved wrong, I really do.

Originally Posted by Cady

If every potential baby should be "given a chance," should contraception be illegal? A leading Republican candidate, Rick Santorum, seems to think so. But once all these babies are born, forget about health care or welfare. Speaking of hypocrisy...

I don't think any Repub wants contraception banned, period. The arguement comes in at public funding of it. Thats where they part ways. If Santorum indeed said that, then he's an idiot, but it has been my understanding that it is the public funding of such thats the trigger.

Originally Posted by constructionguy

I don't think any Repub wants contraception banned, period. The arguement comes in at public funding of it. Thats where they part ways. If Santorum indeed said that, then he's an idiot, but it has been my understanding that it is the public funding of such thats the trigger.

I wish more Republicans were aware of their candidates' positions. Yes, Santorum did indeed say that:

"One of the things I will talk about that no president has talked about before is the dangers of contraception in this country, the whole sexual libertine idea. Many in the Christian faith have said, ‘Well, that’s okay. Contraception’s okay.’ It’s not okay because it’s a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...zyHR_blog.html

And it isn't just public funding of contraception that Republicans oppose. They also oppose a requirement that insurers and employers provide contraception as preventative care. Read the Blunt amendment.