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Thread: When Does Life Begin? Part 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotNews View Post
    History will look back upon these times as infantacide and a disgraceful period of human history.
    That would be revisionist history. Abortion is not infanticide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cady View Post
    That would be revisionist history. Abortion is not infanticide.
    actually it's more like genocide. Of the weakest and most innocent among us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotNews View Post
    Reproductive cells are not individual humans obviously. This stupid argument has already been refuted many times.
    When guys grow a uterus then debate all you want...until then..(*)(*)(*)(*)..and do something to change the world for the better for a change .I have a rep as a thread killer...it's time to let this one DIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotNews View Post
    I disagree. I will call them people, I would call them human lives. I would call them individuals. They are in the early stages of developement. They are unique human beings. They have 46 chromosomes and unique DNA. They should have a right to life, but unfortunately, in this culture of death we currently are in since Roe vs. Wade they do not. History will look back upon these times as infantacide and a disgraceful period of human history.
    You can disagree all you like but this does not change the fact that you have not given any valid rational for your disagreement.

    All human cells have 46 chromosomes.
    What does uniqueness have to do with whether something is a person or not ?

    History will look back and wonder what on earth were those silly folks thinking when they tried to claim that a human cell was a human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giftedone View Post
    You can disagree all you like but this does not change the fact that you have not given any valid rational for your disagreement.

    All human cells have 46 chromosomes.
    What does uniqueness have to do with whether something is a person or not ?

    History will look back and wonder what on earth were those silly folks thinking when they tried to claim that a human cell was a human.
    Like I said earlier, we've been through this discussion umpteen times. There is a difference between a skin cell and a human being in the early stages of development. You really can't compare the two.
    “I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.” -- Ronald Reagan
    We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. -- Ann Coulter
    "I am personally opposed to shooting abortionists, but I don't want to impose my moral values on others." -- Ann Coulter on Fox News 6/22/09
    Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. Boondock Saints

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotNews View Post
    Reproductive cells are not individual humans obviously. This stupid argument has already been refuted many times.
    All the arguments have been refuted many times, yet here you are beating your head against a wall with no hope of ever changing the U.S. Constitution. Give it up and go find something important to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisLed View Post
    actually it's more like genocide. Of the weakest and most innocent among us.
    Look up the word genocide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotNews View Post
    Like I said earlier, we've been through this discussion umpteen times. There is a difference between a skin cell and a human being in the early stages of development. You really can't compare the two.
    There is no valild proof that a "human being" exists in the early stages of human development so your statement is a logical fallacy.

    I agree there are differences between a zygote and a skin cell, and a heart cell however, the zygote is a whole lot more like a skin cell than it is like "a human".

    Shall I list the differences and similarities for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giftedone View Post
    There is no valild proof that a "human being" exists in the early stages of human development so your statement is a logical fallacy.

    I agree there are differences between a zygote and a skin cell, and a heart cell however, the zygote is a whole lot more like a skin cell than it is like "a human".

    Shall I list the differences and similarities for you.
    You need not list the similarities.

    No skin cell has ever grown into a human.

    Every human was at one time a zygote.

    A skin cell is one cell of trillions of cells that make up one human body.

    A zygote is not a part of a multicellular part of a greater organism, but rather a cell which sole purpose is to divide until it has formed one or more human bodies.

    There are no simularities.
    “I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.” -- Ronald Reagan
    We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. -- Ann Coulter
    "I am personally opposed to shooting abortionists, but I don't want to impose my moral values on others." -- Ann Coulter on Fox News 6/22/09
    Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. Boondock Saints

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotNews View Post

    No skin cell has ever grown into a human.
    Don't you claim embryos are humans?

    Mature Human Embryos Created From Adult Skin Cells

    By Rick Weiss
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, January 18, 2008

    Scientists at a California company reported yesterday that they had created the first mature cloned human embryos from single skin cells taken from adults...
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...011700324.html
    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

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