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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaler17 View Post
    You are obviously wrong! But you cannot educate the willingly ignorant.
    Obviously !

    How could I not see the brilliance of your refutation of the experts I cited in the above post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Giftedone View Post
    Any other cell is just as much of a "being" as the zygote and none of these are "human beings". The term "human being" is a combination of "a human" and "being"/that exists.

    A zygote is not "a human".

    The zygote is not a Homo sapien lacking the traits necessary to gain membership into that club.

    Biology is the "domain science", not medicine, and doctors take very little biology that relates.

    So many citations from anti-abort doctors never give "the why".

    Here are the comments of a "Biologist"


    Note that this expert gives "the why", something you never see from the anti-aborts.

    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Biology-6...pien-cells.htm

    Here is a peer reviewed Journal article that gives a detailed explanation issues related the first after conception. "without the inflammatory language" http://www.jci.org/articles/view/23549/files/pdf



    Note the argument that a zygote is "a human" is not considered ... Because there is no valid argument.
    Fair enough argument. I'll concede that point, however it should be noted on some points, such as "personhood" in the word "being" I did not make the argument you attributed to my point.
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond lil View Post
    Animals can't either.
    So you think animals should be killed with impunity?
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisLed View Post
    As a woman don't you know that sex means potential pregnancy. What? Is this the first you heard. Life isn't fair. YOu can have unprotected, indiscriminate sex but you're gonna mess up your life and everyone around you. So. If you're gonna have sex. BE RESPONSIBLE.
    Sorry but where is the male responsibility?

    Surely it takes two to tango?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowerbird View Post
    Sorry but where is the male responsibility?

    Surely it takes two to tango?
    In terms of responsibility, I totally agree that men should be held equally accountable, but not equal with regards to the choice of the fetus' existence, since it lives in the woman's body.
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegadethFan View Post
    So you think animals should be killed with impunity?
    What kind of stupid question is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond lil View Post
    What kind of stupid question is that?
    Dont know, but it is a question. Could you answer it, or not?
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegadethFan View Post
    Dont know, but it is a question. Could you answer it, or not?
    You can find out the answer yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamond lil View Post
    You can find out the answer yourself.
    Where, exactly?
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Online. Type in any question you like into a search engine and see what comes up.

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