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Old 03-12-2008, 11:46 PM
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Regardless of many say you say it a baby is till not independant, inside or outside the womb. If your excuse to kill a baby inside the womb is because it is dependant on you, then a mother should be also allowed to kill their 1 month old baby because it too is dependant on them. This not rational reasoning it is just another excuse.
This is not what I mean at all. Once born, the baby may have to be cared for by the mother, but it is no longer relying on her bodily nutrients to keep it alive. I have said this many, many times, but it seems to be going in one ear and out the other...
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This is not what I mean at all. Once born, the baby may have to be cared for by the mother, but it is no longer relying on her bodily nutrients to keep it alive. I have said this many, many times, but it seems to be going in one ear and out the other...
A BABY IS STILL NOT INDEPENDANT WETHER INSIDE THE WOMB OR NOT. WETHER IT NEEDS TO TAKE NUTRIENTS DIRECTLY FROM THE MOTHER OR NOT. What I am saying to you is going in one ear and out the other. So what if the child inside the womb needs nutrients coming directly from you, is that more of a reason to kill it than it recieving nutrients indirectly from you.
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This is not what I mean at all. Once born, the baby may have to be cared for by the mother, but it is no longer relying on her bodily nutrients to keep it alive.
It is if she is breast-feeding.

By your own logic, if a woman is breast-feeding her baby, it is completely dependent upon her and therefor she has the right to kill it whenever it suits her.
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isnt there baby formula? and im pretty sure one women can breast feed anothers baby.
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It is if she is breast-feeding.

By your own logic, if a woman is breast-feeding her baby, it is completely dependent upon her and therefor she has the right to kill it whenever it suits her.
Both of you are completley ignorant to what I am saying. INDEPENDANT FROM THE MOTHER. What part of that do you not understand? Not FULLY INDEPENDENT, but INDEPENDANT from the MOTHER. Got it? Good.
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Both of you are completley ignorant to what I am saying. INDEPENDANT FROM THE MOTHER. What part of that do you not understand? Not FULLY INDEPENDENT, but INDEPENDANT from the MOTHER. Got it? Good.
I think you should look over my posts. I never once stated that when a child is born it needed it's biological mother. I simply stated that when a child is born it is not independant. Your excuse for killing the life inside you was because it was reliant on you, it needed nutrients from you and so forth. I am simply stating that a 1 month old baby is still relying on people, it still needs provided with nutrients and so forth, yet should the people looking after a 1 month old baby have the right to kill that child?, of course not. I hope I have cleared up any misunderstanding you had.
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I think you should look over my posts. I never once stated that when a child is born it needed it's biological mother. I simply stated that when a child is born it is not independant. Your excuse for killing the life inside you was because it was reliant on you, it needed nutrients from you and so forth. I am simply stating that a 1 month old baby is still relying on people, it still needs provided with nutrients and so forth, yet should the people looking after a 1 month old baby have the right to kill that child?, of course not. I hope I have cleared up any misunderstanding you had.
And how many times have I said that the fetus is independant from the mother, but not necessarily from other people? Too many times to count.
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Both of you are completley ignorant to what I am saying. INDEPENDANT FROM THE MOTHER. What part of that do you not understand? Not FULLY INDEPENDENT, but INDEPENDANT from the MOTHER. Got it? Good.
**snicker**

Is that the same as life but not life? Human but not human being?
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Both of you are completley ignorant to what I am saying. INDEPENDANT FROM THE MOTHER. What part of that do you not understand? Not FULLY INDEPENDENT, but INDEPENDANT from the MOTHER. Got it? Good.

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This is not what I mean at all. Once born, the baby may have to be cared for by the mother, but it is no longer relying on her bodily nutrients to keep it alive.
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By your own logic, if a woman is breast-feeding her baby, it is completely dependent upon her and therefor she has the right to kill it whenever it suits her.
Now let that soak in for awhile before posting another dopey response.....
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Is that the same as life but not life? Human but not human being?
It is....but it isn't.

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