Thread: Friend Of Mine Had An Abortion

Originally Posted by alexa

That is one of the silliest replies I have seen. If I remember correctly a large number of embryos are lost before the mother even knows she is pregnant, never mind those which are lost for various reasons later on in the pregnancy.

but now I have found what you are replying to. Churchmouse claims to have killed a potential child. Are you suggesting Churchmouse actually killed a child? If so she should be arrested immediately. An in utero foetus is not even a baby never mind a child.

Alexa, "potential" occurs before something begins, not after it begins. Whether or not that life dies of it's own accord is irrelevant.

potential:
1.(*)possible, as opposed to actual: the potential uses of nuclear energy.
2.(*)capable of being or becoming: a potential danger to safety.
3.(*)expressing possibility: the potential subjunctive in Latin; the potential use of can in I can go.

Originally Posted by TheHat

Alexa, "potential" occurs before something begins, not after it begins. Whether or not that life dies of it's own accord is irrelevant.

An 8 week embryo is not a baby. An 8 week embryo is not a child. I used the term potential to mean it could potentially happen as in the quote from your dictionary. It was not real, only potential.

You are trying to act superior over make believe and I am not going to waste my energy with any more of this silliness.

Really. Libs are way fast to deny life AND liberty to other people. Or potential people. But you can listen to them scream bloody murder when they think anyone is threatening their own selfish wishes.

Originally Posted by MisLed

Really. Libs are way fast to deny life AND liberty to other people. Or potential people. But you can listen to them scream bloody murder when they think anyone is threatening their own selfish wishes.

That's nice. Now, got anything to say about the thread's topic?

Originally Posted by Makedde

Well, I shouldn't really say 'friend' because she's one of these people who complains and whines about how crap her life is.

She had an abortion about 10 weeks ago. Before that, she'd go out clubbing and pick up random men and take them home. She'd drink herself stupid and call up 'sick' to work so we had to race around to replace her shifts. She has no idea who the father was, it could have been anyone. So she went and got rid of it and now she is still claiming to my boss that she is pregnant, so my boss has sympathy for her.

I don't care about her abortion, its just the fact that she is one of those irresponsible women who don't bother to protect themselves.

On other hand, I have another friend, who is only 18, and she is nearly five months pregnant. In order to buy baby clothes and other things, she got herself a full time job. She works eight hours a day, seven days a week, and has stopped drinking and clubbing in order to protect her growing fetus.

This is an 18 year old. A teenager. Someone whom many would assume is irresponsible, yet she got herself a job and is preparing to be a mother, whereas the other is in her 20's and has no care in the world.

Abortion doesn't bother me, but my friend has pissed me off because I don't like to think how irresponsible and selfish some women are. Abortion, ideally, should be a last resort. Use protection, and if that fails, have the abortion. But don't go around screwing dozens of men and getting knocked up by some random stranger who you met and never even got their first name.

Some lifers might say that getting an abortion is irresponsible. But I think trying to prevent having the abortion in the first place (by using protection) IS responsible. My teenage mate has suddenly become the most responsible person I know. This is someone who used to drink so much she'd pass out and choke on her vomit. I just don't understand why she can change completely and my other mate refuses to. Someday, she'll end up getting hurt, and I think I'll have a hard time having sympathy for her.

Just needed to get that out. I feel so much better now.

as you posted, the 18 year old seems more ready to be a parent then the 20 somthin year old, so they both made the choice that is right for them, but I agree, it would be easier and cheaper just to take precautions up front if she is gonna live that kinda life style

Originally Posted by TheHat

Alexa, "potential" occurs before something begins, not after it begins. Whether or not that life dies of it's own accord is irrelevant.

the ingredients for a cake have the potential to be a cake up until the point they become a cake, at any point before that point if you stop the process, there will be no cake

once there is a cake, then you can point to the beginning of that cake, but saying the ingredients in a bowl are cake is incorrect, it's only the ingredients potential


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Originally Posted by TheHat

Alexa, "potential" occurs before something begins, not after it begins. Whether or not that life dies of it's own accord is irrelevant.

You've been caught out. The lifer nonsense about calling a fetus a "baby" or a "child" IS nonsense. Whether its potentially anything is irrelevant to this fact. haha I cant believe one lifer here even called a fetus a "future woman". What a load.

Smoke and mirrors - that's all lifers will ever have. Manipulating language, diverting discussion and avoiding argumentation is the only defence the majority of the lifers here seem to be able to make.

Originally Posted by MisLed

Really. Libs are way fast to deny life AND liberty to other people. Or potential people. But you can listen to them scream bloody murder when they think anyone is threatening their own selfish wishes.

I don't recall any lib saying anyone can't have babies if they want them.

Originally Posted by Iriemon

I don't recall any lib saying anyone can't have babies if they want them.

feminists have tried to discourage it but if people are having babies and paying for it themselvses i got no problem.

Now, You want to kill your unborn, then pay for it yourself. I don't want to pay for it. And I AM paying for it when my tax money goes to places like PP.

Originally Posted by MisLed

feminists have tried to discourage it but if people are having babies and paying for it themselvses i got no problem.

Good for you.

Now, You want to kill your unborn, then pay for it yourself. I don't want to pay for it. And I AM paying for it when my tax money goes to places like PP.

Since you don't want to pay for the unwanted baby either, its a cost effective option.