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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...m-1640165.html

    Declaring that "life must always be protected", a senior Vatican cleric has defended the Catholic Church's decision to excommunicate the mother and doctors of a nine-year-old rape victim who had a life-saving abortion in Brazil.

    Cardinal Giovanni Batista Re, who heads the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, told reporters that although the girl fell pregnant after apparently being abused by her stepfather, her twins had, "the right to live, and could not be eliminated".

    In an interview with the Italian newspaper, La Stampa, the cardinal added: "It is a sad case but the real problem is that the twins conceived were two innocent persons. Life must always be protected."

    Police believe the girl was sexually assaulted for years by her stepfather, possibly since she was six. That she was four months pregnant with twins emerged only after she was taken to hospital complaining of severe stomach pains.

    The controversy represents a PR nightmare for the Vatican. The unnamed girl's mother and doctors were excommunicated for agreeing to Wednesday's emergency abortion yet the Church has not taken formal steps against the stepfather, who is in custody. Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, the conservative regional archbishop for Pernambuco where the girl was rushed to hospital, has said that the man would not be thrown out of the Church, because although he had allegedly committed "a heinous crime", the Church took the view that "the abortion, the elimination of an innocent life, was more serious".

    The case has set off fierce debate in Brazil, where abortion is permitted only in cases of rape or a medical emergency. Brazil is one of the most populous Catholic countries, but conservative attitudes in rural areas are strongly at odds with the relatively progressive public view of abortion in major cities.

    Even the President, Luiz Ignacio Lula da Silva, has waded into the row. "As a Christian and a Catholic, I deeply regret that a bishop of the Catholic Church has such a conservative attitude," he said "The doctors did what had to be done: save the life of a girl of nine years old. In this case, the medical profession was more right than the Church."

    One of the doctors involved in the abortion, Rivaldo Albuquerque, has raised the prospect of public clashes at his local church, telling Globo, the nation's main TV network, that he would keep going to mass there, regardless of the archbishop's order. The young girl at the centre of the case escaped excommunication only because she is still a child in the eyes of Church authorities. The stepfather, who is 23, was arrested last week, apparently trying to escape to another region of the country. Police say he is also suspected of abusing the girl's handicapped 14-year-old sister. He is in protective custody, and if convicted faces up to 15 years in prison.
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    Words cannot describe the idiocy. And the fact the Vatican is staying mute of this like they do in almost every issue with the church makes it even worse. I can understand people not agreeing with abortion, but I have met few if any people who would disagree with it in this case or ever think excommunication (literally (*)(*)(*)(*)ing the doctors and her whole family except the rapist) takes this whole thing to another level.
    Stay classy Catholicism.
    "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." - J.R.R.Tolkien


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    This is crazy. A nine year old would have died carrying twins.

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    What is strange is the excommunication part...or not. Ted Kennedy was a reprobate and a staunch abortion supporter and they only threatened him with excommunication. Methinks something's afoot in the mother's excommunication alone in this matter. Perhaps, the stepfather gave someone 30 pieces of silver.


    Still, what turds. I'm mean...wow...the girl wasn't excommunicated and the mother was, but for really the wrong reasons. The fact that somehow all her kids got molested by her husband and one even was carrying twins, to me, is worth a little excommunication. I mean...how do you live in the same house and "not know".

    Seriously. How do these women "not know". Why is your husband leaving the bed at night? Why are the kids all acting strange? Why are they withdrawn? The stepfather should be fed to crocodiles and the mother slapped around with a rubber hose.

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    I'm sorry for what happened to her. I hope she gets better soon.
    "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it."- American Philosopher George Santayana

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zosiasmom View Post
    What is strange is the excommunication part...or not. Ted Kennedy was a reprobate and a staunch abortion supporter and they only threatened him with excommunication.
    No way the Catholic church excommunicates the only surviving brother of the only Catholic US president. Anyway who excommunicates a nine year old?

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    Oh look, the church is once again, out of step with reality. whodathunk.

    They should put the step-dad into a general populace prison and give the guards an extra long lunch.
    "They all have husbands and wives and children and houses and dogs, and, you know, they've all made themselves a part of something and they can talk about what they do. What am I gonna say? "I killed the president of Paraguay with a fork. How've you been?" Martin Grosse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jebediah View Post
    No way the Catholic church excommunicates the only surviving brother of the only Catholic US president. Anyway who excommunicates a nine year old?
    They didn't excommunicate a 9 year old.
    The young girl at the centre of the case escaped excommunication
    They excommunicated her mother, but for all the wrong reasons. She and her sick POS husband should have been excommunicated for child neglect and abuse...or at the very least smacked around (her) and used for zoo food (him).

    They should have canonized Jack and excommunicated Ted. Can you tell I'm in a grouchy mood tonight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zosiasmom View Post
    They didn't excommunicate a 9 year old.

    They excommunicated her mother, but for all the wrong reasons. She and her sick POS husband should have been excommunicated for child neglect and abuse...or at the very least smacked around (her) and used for zoo food (him).

    They should have canonized Jack and excommunicated Ted. Can you tell I'm in a grouchy mood tonight?
    We all have our moods.

    I didn't realize it was the mother that was excommunicated. I am not Catholic so I truly cannot honestly comment on their practices. I'm not too big into organized religion. I don't mind Christianity but this business of banishing some people from the church while gladly accepting others makes no sense to me. I guess the Catholic Church didn't want to seem hypocritical so they took it easy on the pedophile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jebediah View Post
    We all have our moods.

    I didn't realize it was the mother that was excommunicated. I am not Catholic so I truly cannot honestly comment on their practices. I'm not too big into organized religion. I don't mind Christianity but this business of banishing some people from the church while gladly accepting others makes no sense to me. I guess the Catholic Church didn't want to seem hypocritical so they took it easy on the pedophile.
    I just inhaled limeade. Thanks.

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    I don't believe in using abortion as a form of birth control, but there are occasions I do agree with it and rape is one of those.
    Beam me up Scottie, no intelligent life down here.

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