Womens Rights - The reason I'm pro choice. - Page 13

Whaler17 · #**121** (**permalink**) 06-02-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

Semon may be part of the mans body, but once it enters the woman, it becomes a part of her body.
Both man and woman cannot have equal consent to the pregnancy/birth because the man has no say in whether or not the pregnancy continues. He has the right to an opinion, but the right to choose rests with the female.

Once the Semen and the woman's egg unite and fertilization has occurred, a fetus is its own body!

MasTequila · #**122** (**permalink**) 06-02-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Whaler17

Once the Semen and the woman's egg unite and fertilization has occurred, a fetus is its own body!

Great point... I agree totally.

Makedde · #**123** (**permalink**) 06-03-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Whaler17

Once the Semen and the woman's egg unite and fertilization has occurred, a fetus is its own body!

But that body happens to be inside the body of another, using that bodies nutrients to sustain it's life.
That's the issue.

peaceful warrior · #**124** (**permalink**) 06-03-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

Semon may be part of the mans body, but once it enters the woman, it becomes a part of her body.
Both man and woman cannot have equal consent to the pregnancy/birth because the man has no say in whether or not the pregnancy continues. He has the right to an opinion, but the right to choose rests with the female.

huh. you know, it makes me sad when you don't pay attention. anyway let me repeat; so, the father has to pay child support but he does'nt get say? hmmm...? unfair. also i thought you didn't believe in any killing no matter what? does that not apply to babies? congratulations, you've just been outmaneuvered by a teenager.

SuperDinoYoshi · #**125** (**permalink**) 06-03-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

But that body happens to be inside the body of another, using that bodies nutrients to sustain it's life.
That's the issue.

Key word here "it's life". It has life. It is alive. At the very least, following this logic as-is, instead of abortion, the baby should be taken out of the woman, and if it can survive on its own, be allowed to do so.

Last time I checked, in this country, we have the right to life. If you have life, the government should expel all means necessary to prevent someone from taking it from you.

Makedde · #**126** (**permalink**) 06-04-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by peaceful warrior

huh. you know, it makes me sad when you don't pay attention. anyway let me repeat; so, the father has to pay child support but he does'nt get say? hmmm...? unfair.

The father has a say, but he does not get to choose whether the woman continues with the pregnancy. That choice is hers, and hers alone.

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also i thought you didn't believe in any killing no matter what? does that not apply to babies?

I said I don't believe in the death penalty, no matter what. Fetus's are not people. My beliefs on the DP do not apply to fetus's. Death row inmates are not using another persons body to sustain life, a fetus is.

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Originally Posted by peaceful warrior

congratulations, you've just been outmaneuvered by a teenager.

I've been debating this subject for years, and I have never been outmaneuvered, especially not by a teenager.

Makedde · #**127** (**permalink**) 06-04-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperDinoYoshi

Key word here "it's life". It has life. It is alive. At the very least, following this logic as-is, instead of abortion, the baby should be taken out of the woman, and if it can survive on its own, be allowed to do so.

Last time I checked, in this country, we have the right to life. If you have life, the government should expel all means necessary to prevent someone from taking it from you.

People have the right to life. A fetus is not a person, and therefore has no right to life.
The fetus is a life, but only a potential life. It cannot survive outside the womans body. It will only become a born life if the woman choose to allow it.

B L Zeebub · #**128** (**permalink**) 06-04-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

The father has a say, but he does not get to choose whether the woman continues with the pregnancy. That choice is hers, and hers alone.

I said I don't believe in the death penalty, no matter what. Fetus's are not people. My beliefs on the DP do not apply to fetus's. Death row inmates are not using another persons body to sustain life, a fetus is.

I've been debating this subject for years, and I have never been outmaneuvered, especially not by a teenager.

I concur Makka keep up the good work

Makedde · #**129** (**permalink**) 06-04-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

I concur Makka keep up the good work

Thank you BLZ. I would be quite happy to debate the subject until I am old and grey.

SuperDinoYoshi · #**130** (**permalink**) 06-04-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde

People have the right to life. A fetus is not a person, and therefore has no right to life.
The fetus is a life, but only a potential life. It cannot survive outside the womans body. It will only become a born life if the woman choose to allow it.

Some unborn babies could survive outside their mothers. Try Again.

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