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Old 03-07-2008, 05:16 PM
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The old 'rape' argument is feeble and tired. I would like to see some reliable stats which show what percentage of aborted babies are the product of rape.

I'm guessing a tiny fraction of a percent.......
Who cares how many babies are aborted due to rape? You have all failed to tell me what abortion has to do with any of you! You are all men, you will never get pregnant, so stop acting like you know all about pregnancy, because you don't know jack (*)(*)(*)(*)! You have no authority over women, no say in the matter at all.
I really wonder why most pro lifers are men. Do men really like being in control of someone that much?
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I really wonder why most pro lifers are men. Do men really like being in control of someone that much?
^^False!

Almost the same percentage of men and women do not support abortion.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in537570.shtml

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MEN AND WOMEN ON ABORTION
Abortion should not be permitted:

Men: 20%
Women: 24%
Heck, even the woman who was the plaintiff of the Roe v Wade trial no longer supports abortion.
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The "religious biggots" [sic] mantra is the oldest and cheapest canard of the pro-abortionists - people of all types oppose abortion.
So What! the first part of my post was based on the law of my country, a democracy!

The last part was an addendum to explain my personel views about the affect that "religious biggots" (or biggots in general) may have, on parts of the population to try to negate a law that has been arrived at through Democracy.

Quote "people of all types oppose abortion" you state one of the oldest "Ducks" the obvious, it just happens in my country they are in the minority. but the larger proportion of that minority are "religious biggots".

Do you, in your country have a law that allows abortion.
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Old 03-07-2008, 10:38 PM
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So you execute innocent children who are the product of rape but only imprison the rapist?

Why do the victims get a harsher sentence than the criminals?
Because both are options within your laws billybob, the first remark about the termination of the feotus, has been a law in your country since 1973, have you not had elections since then! so obviously it is the will of the electorate.
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During the serbian massacres, etc, in Kosovo during the 1990's, lots of Kosovan women were raped. Many became pregnant. But lots decided against abortions. I read this awhile back and will try to find a link. I'm not weighing in on the rape case of abortion, just offering this info.
You are correct, they arrived at their dicision, just like the women who choose to have a termination because they could.

Good info on the rights of Women to decide there fate and that of their womb.

As a man I feel I am incapable of placing myself in the mind of a woman when this decision has to be made, maybe I should try to get more in tune with my "female side" like Billybob.
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B L zeebub you state you are pro-choice, well I agree I too am pro-choice. God gave us choice it's called free will. However some people make the wrong choices. If I murdered someone I made that choice to do so, but this would be wrong of me so I made the wrong choice. Murder is unacceptable in society so, I believe abortion should also be unacceptable.
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Who cares how many babies are aborted due to rape?
It is pertinent to this discussion because the same old scenario of 'conception from rape' is used as justification for abortion. My question is, what percentage of aborted fetuses are the product of rape? If it is miniscule than I'd suggest you pick a better reason for defending abortion or else the 99.9% of other abortions will be deemed inappropriate at the very least.




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You have all failed to tell me what abortion has to do with any of you! You are all men, you will never get pregnant, so stop acting like you know all about pregnancy, because you don't know jack (*)(*)(*)(*)!
I know about murder. And I know a lot about pregnancy, I am a Father.


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You have no authority over women,
My wife would disagree with you.


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no say in the matter at all.
I see. So since I am not a pedophile I should have no say in what happens to any scumbag who rapes a child? As a citizen? As a legislator?


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I really wonder why most pro lifers are men.
Got any evidence of that?


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Do men really like being in control of someone that much?
Why do you hate men so much?
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Because both are options within your laws billybob,
My question was more a philosophical one directed toward Ms. Tate. I was curious why she chooses to execute the innocent victim of a rape yet prefers a much lighter sentence for the criminal rapist.


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the first remark about the termination of the feotus, has been a law in your country since 1973, have you not had elections since then! so obviously it is the will of the electorate.
The abortion issue never appears on a ballot. My guess is that if it ever did, US citizens would abolish it and that is why it is kept off the ballots.

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B L zeebub you state you are pro-choice, well I agree I too am pro-choice. God gave us choice it's called free will. However some people make the wrong choices. If I murdered someone I made that choice to do so, but this would be wrong of me so I made the wrong choice. Murder is unacceptable in society so, I believe abortion should also be unacceptable.
I do not recognise God, but I recognise choice right or wrong, that is why in a Democratic Soc you have laws created by the people, for the people.

That is why I find adherence to religious laws like "Sharia" an insult to my intelligence.

Was it not the descision of your founding Fathers to separate church from State.

I do not regard the termination of a foetus within the laws of your country or mine as murder, nor does the legal system in your country or mine.

So until that is altered, your rather infantile analogy with ref to "murder" is banal.

Would you like to discuss the laws governing infanticide in the UK US or the world, and how in certain races at times of famine when prayer for food did not work (has it ever) the religious leaders ordered the slaughter of children.
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My question was more a philosophical one directed toward Ms. Tate. I was curious why she chooses to execute the innocent victim of a rape yet prefers a much lighter sentence for the criminal rapist.




The abortion issue never appears on a ballot. My guess is that if it ever did, US citizens would abolish it and that is why it is kept off the ballots.
Billy Bob both your responces are Banal.You will have to do better!

Oh boo hoo, they dont put it on the Ballot, your living in a Democracy, lobby, stand yourself, do something to prove your convictions are more than just self-aggrandizing gobs of dribble
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